TWR-please stop. It seems that the only argument that has been drawn out in this thread is that Counsell doesn't "seem" to make bad mistakes and therefore should be on the field, especially when we are "already" scoring runs. This is a dubious argument at best. Counsell is a guy I want to root for, and I think his worth can get overestimated because he is the hometown veteran scrappy white guy. However, to say that he should be taking at bats from Branyan is just incorrect. Branyan has been more valuable by almost every valuable statistic. And there is no way that "intangibles" can make up for these kinds of statistical disadvantages, otherwise World Series teams would consist of 8 Mark Derosa's