thanks for giving it some thought. 3 2/3 innings, 8 hits, 6 runs, 4 walks. On September 14. In Philly. Doesn't take a whole lot of thought to think just maybe Suppan isn't the best option. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif ETA: If his most recent Philadelphia nightmare isn't enough to scare you, he's started 2 other games in Philly the past couple of years: 10 innings, 17 hits, 13 runs (9 earned), 4 homers, 3 walks. So in his last 3 starts there: 13 2/3 innings, 25 hits, 15 ER's, 5 homers, 7 walks.