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  1. I would really like if someone out there did some quant on Gute because I think people would be surprised to see where he lands as far as drafting goes. I think he's probably better than most but maybe I'm wrong. All teams have flop picks, his get magnified here obviously. Prior to this past offseason, it felt like he generally crushed in FA too. He flopped big time this past year though. Parsons made up for what would have really made him look bad. Golden looks like a solid player and LaFleur looks like an idiot for wasting him. I voted to keep him and fire MLF. I am just not convinced there is a big issue with Gute or a guy that you know can come in and do better the way that I am with MLF.
  2. It's not that they'd need 2 seasons to be OK, but they aren't going to fire the guy after 1 year if he goes 10-7 and loses the WC. Ben Johnson and Liam Coen are great, but they probably aren't going to win the Super Bowl (Coen isn't), either. If the expectation is to win NOW, it's not a fair expectation to put that on a first-year coach. It can happen, but it's unlikely. Perhaps misguidedly, they think they can win it right this moment, and that MLF is the most realistic path there. Me? I'd say that if they hit on the hire, they'd at least a better chance than doing it with MLF. I don't think he's the "we have a good chance with him" coach that they do.
  3. I thought the tea leaves were pretty obvious he wasn't getting fired. -Policy was on his hiring committee -He expressed support in the final weeks, offering up their perseverance in the face of a rash of injuries as praise for MLF -They said the decision would not be based on Saturday's game beforehand -He wouldn't have said anything at all if firing were on the table -And to me, the biggest reason: Whether or not they are, they think they're close. If you bring in someone new, that's starting at zero with scheme, style, culture, etc. You are going to have to give that new guy at LEAST two seasons. They don't want to wait, they want to do it now. I think that's a mistake, but I think that's their position. I'm with you though. I'm a casual next year if this season doesn't get a guy fired, simply because there is no chance they are winning it with MLF. If they weren't expected to contend it would be one thing to find some value in a rebuild, they are now accepting purgatory and yeah, I'm out. I already consciously stopped buying tickets to games, but I'll be a box score checker if this plays out like this.
  4. It's fine if people want to make a case for him. But let's be serious about it. His best seasons came when Rodgers had a chip on his shoulder because we drafted Love. He responded by winning two MVPs and throwing nearly 50 TD passes. That era accounted for MLF going 39-10. It can't just be glossed over by saying "Well that wasn't all Aaron." It is pretty obvious it was almost entirely Aaron. He has one losing year at 8-9 where Aaron is clearly hurt (and just old), which again had playoff expectations in preseason and they suddenly aren't so great anymore. He is 29-21 without Aaron Rodgers. That's OK, above average even. It's not "super hot candidate" great. A super hot candidate is always a coordinator from a dominant unit, a la Aaron Glenn or Ben Johnson. I think most teams would be looking for that, not a guy that hasn't won playoff games with even the best hand at the table. But let's say he is at the top of the list. The Packers shouldn't be in the sandbox for candidates with Arizona, Tennessee and New York. They are looking for a coach to get them into title contention. I don't think MLF would be a hot candidate for any of those kinds of openings, granted they open up a lot less frequently.
  5. Idk man, it's hard for me to say that wasn't an incredible throw. That's a catchable, yes difficult, but catchable ball for Watson placed in the only spot it can be. Not the kind where you're mad he doesn't get it, but with no timeouts, I can't feel any kind of way that Love threw that ball. It actually ticks me off reading all the nonsense about how he "doesn't have the X factor." That pass is all of those things.
  6. They hit 94% in Cleveland as well. LaFleur cannot manage a clock or play situational football. He can't be a HC. He also nearly caused them to lose in Dallas (another game they blew a two score lead) - and I don't want to hear that it was Love on the final play - because it was Matt's management a minute earlier that caused all the chaos in the first place. The only defense I will offer MLF is the mantra going around that we'd miss the playoffs under the old rules is a bit disingenuous. The Packers played the last game of the year like a bye week last year and this year - they don't do that unless the spot is already wrapped up. Last year in particular, they won 11 games, which gets you in easily about 99% of years. In '23, being the 7 seed was seen as a major success of a season during a rebuilding year. This year, they are easily playing for the #2 or #3 in the last week if it made sense to do so. It's kind of one those lying statistics.
  7. I forgot the Rams are 5 not SF. I was thinking SF was going to Chicago next week. The Rams are a different team outdoors especially in a place like Chicago that is about the worst place they can be. Seattle will beat SF. Still think Chicago has a good a chance as anyone. The NFC just isn't that great where you can say they don't have a chance. They absolutely have a chance.
  8. He'd have to get fired first and my gut feeling is that Policy has already told him he's more or less okay. I believe they will retool one more time and try to address what they can, hope that Parsons can join them and some point and be as effective, and hope next year is luckier than this. Golden sure looked like the guy to be opposite Watson next year.
  9. The Bears are going to win the Super Bowl, aren't they? They'll score 40 points on SF and I believe the Rams will win in Seattle and give HFA back to the Bears. The Rams are not the same team in January outside that they are indoors. I am now forced to root for SF which is just about as bad as it gets. Or I get "lucky" and get to root for Seattle. Disgusting. The Rams are benign to me but 3/4 in the NFC field can be launched in into the sun. Really hope the AFC wins this year.
  10. He will fail in any of those places besides maybe Arizona because there isn't a QB. He could possibly be the guy to resurrect Murray, Dart maybe in NYG? Even those moribund franchises, their dream is to win the Super Bowl. It would make more sense to find the next Reid or McVay rather than a retread that didn't win his conference with Aaron Rodgers. I think you are probably right, but it makes no sense to me. I just don't see what makes LaFleur an attractive candidate.
  11. I don't get the notion of LaFleur being a hot name that can "cash in" elsewhere. Not saying it isn't true, but I don't understand who is looking at what he's done where and thinking, oh man, yes, let's get that guy!
  12. My issues with MLF started when the Packers kicked a FG down by 8 against Tampa in the NFCCG. They had Aaron Rodgers and they kicked a FG to go down by 5 and give the ball to Tom Brady for the last 2 minutes knowing the game is over if they get a first down. They didn't even do an onside kick which you might be able to justify. It's forgiveable if it didn't completely tell you what kind of coach LaFleur is and set the stage for the rest of his tenure. He's scared. He's afraid of the big mistake that will lose the game. For the umpteenth time, I do think he's a great coordinator. I think given a week to prepare and script out plays, he's quite good. I think he can coach young offensive players and develop them to succeed. When he has to adjust on the fly, or counter his opponent's adjustments, he's among the worst in the league. His scripted plays last night had the Bears hapless. In-game adjustments, challenges, timeouts, control of his emotions during games...he's terrible. That's what a HC is supposed to be good with. The coordinators do most of the other stuff. That's what he is, a coordinator. Seven years is enough. He's not breaking through in years 8 to 10. I hope the Packers recognize that too.
  13. It has plenty to do with it when you literally cite his age as a reason they can't possibly be friends.
  14. This "reactionary fan" stuff has merit when it's 3rd year. It's not when it's 7th season and he hasn't gotten out of the divisional without Aaron Rodgers. They haven't actually won 2 playoff games in a single season under him.
  15. I don't have a problem with the guy. Seems like a nice, good guy and takes his health seriously. In an unrealistic world I wouldn't mind him staying on as the OC, but that doesn't happen. I don't think he's fit to be a HC and believe there's a mountain of evidence. I think a big chunk of HC is game management and he sucks at it. You don't always have to take everything personally. Btw I'm 40 and have close friends in their 70s. Coincidentally almost all of them are from my time in athletics and they were my coaches. I didn't just make that up. Those two were close friends.
  16. Yeah this is coaching. Particularly when your ST unit is consistently awful and your best friend is the coordinator. 28/32 coaches could call about 5 games the Packers lost this season to the finish line. I really can't anymore. You like LaFleur, you think the team is bad, that's fine, I accept it.
  17. https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/silverstein/2026/01/11/packers-ceo-ed-policy-should-move-on-from-coach-matt-lafleur/88107203007/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p&gca-uir=true&gca-epti=z117937d00----v117937d--88--b--88--&gca-ft=188&gca-ds=sophi Bold move considering it's unlikely to happen and Silverstein has to work with LaFleur every day.
  18. Honestly, I can't keep having this argument, it won't go anywhere. But the Packers as late as week 14 for positioning themselves for the 1 seed and were essentially a unanimous top 5 team from any analyst. Then Parsons went down and the whole thing fell apart. So that's not LaFleur's fault, right? You would think not, except you can make a strong case that at 9-3-1 the Packers should have been more like 11-2 and he was the primary reason they weren't. And this isn't new. He then goes on to crap his pants in Chicago, does it again in the playoffs. But my desire to have him canned isn't really based on last night or even this season. It's that he has been failing in the same ways for 7 years. Misuse of timeouts, letting his friends be assistants without repercussions for awful production, turtling with a lead etc. He can go be a good OC somewhere. He's a bad coach. This is not the next Super Bowl coach. It hasn't been like a year or two. It's been 7 damn years. He's essentially Mike Sherman only LaFleur has enjoyed better QB play. When blowing multi-score leads has become the team identity I have a hard time believing there's a significant talent problem.
  19. This is something that makes MLF look horrendous. He was all over the place making plays and we were opting for Bo Melton the entire year. Inexcusable.
  20. I have a tough time going after Love in this game. The dry spell 3rd quarter wasn't great but he threw for 300+ and 4 touchdowns. He led a touchdown drive with 6 minutes to get an 11-point lead and converted a 4th down on the final drive to get us to about the 30 or whatever. Yeah, delay of game, some less than great managing of things. But he played a very good game and had a generally great year. I am a bit mystified by how many people want him gone or feel so convinced he isn't "the guy." I don't think Jordan Love even cracks the top 15 problems on this team. I just don't see any reason he can't be a championship QB.
  21. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. McManus missing the kick, followed by the immediate 3 and out, I was already thinking it and made several posts during the 3rd. Nothing about this was surprising. Nothing. It's gotten so bad I was relieved the Bears didn't do an onside kick. They did fool me yet again with the Golden TD. I thought for a minute they might hold on.
  22. It's basically one guy who has stuck his flag in the "they have no talent" position and isn't ever going to come off of that no matter how badly LaFleur performs. LaFleur is indefensible at this point. Yes the team has roster issues, but no serious person can believe this is the guy to get this team back to respectibility. He is an OC. He needs the game management left to his HC.
  23. For the third time...those opening sets has some really creative stuff. The 3rd quarter was Roundy's Vanilla.
  24. Delay of game after a timeout was bad, but Love also attempted to call a timeout, which I don't believe you can even do. That's embarrassing for an NFL QB.
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