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I agree with this. This was the play and it made sense. It was easier to do that than find another Adams right away and with the transition to a new QB coming maybe soon, his best friend would have been a strong defense. Defense does tend to gel over the course of a season though, and they have been on the field way too much.
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Now that was about as fun a game to be at as you can get in October. I have to admit some of the calls did seem one sided. Classic NBA letting guys box in the paint and then calling touch fouls on the perimeter. I think BKN was called for 5 techs tonight and a Flagrant 1. And always fun to see a coach get tossed.
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To be "done" Watkins would have had to have started at some point. He's been bad since his 2nd year in the league. It was worth kicking the tires on a 1st round talent who never played on really good teams, but he's not the answer. I think there is more going on than just bad WRs, but we have very bad WRs. Lazard is "fine", he is not a #1. Cobb is ... Cobb. Amari Rodgers is awful. Watson is useless right now, and Doubs isn't going to help right now. Our best pass catcher is legitimately Aaron Jones.
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I also find bringing up the last 2 playoff losses kinda funny as some sort of dagger point that Rodgers is this huge problem. The one 2 years ago he clearly outplayed his counterpart who threw 3 picks in the 2nd half. Last year, not a good game by any measure but one in which they still win if they can block on a punt...or if Aaron Jones runs the correct way on a long pass. So uh, no, his teammates did not come up big. Not really bagging on Jones here but it's just the point that everyone on the roster makes mistakes and zeroing in on a game's last possession has always been pretty lame in my view. Just pretty funny watching everyone unanimously agree this stuff is all his fault years later because they've now decided he is to blame.
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Post is just so full of straw men I don't know where to start. For one, he actually did say that HE has to play better on McAfee THIS WEEK. I guess you missed that. And again, I'm sorry but you're just wrong, he has said that after pretty much every loss this season. He was also saying this exact same thing about young guys in August, but they hadn't lost yet so it was perfectly fine. I guess if he isn't 158.3 he's not allowed to say anything about anyone else on the team? It's just damned if you do, damned it you don't. He's either throwing guys under the bus or he doesn't really care about winning if he stays quiet. Rough crowd I guess. Lastly...you are really hung up on his highest graded game thing. He didn't even say it was a great game. Do you know that the game grades are administered by the staff after film? That's just a factual thing he's saying. Just because it's his highest graded game doesn't mean there aren't errant throws. I suspect that if Rodgers has been saying the same thing about preparation problems for 3 months, there is probably something to it, but maybe not, maybe Skip Bayless has the answers. And as far as criticizing Rodgers goes, LOL, I've been burned at the stakes here for that over the years. I couldn't care less about rushing to his aid. I just find it completely laughable watching this predictable cycle unfold every time they drop a few games. I really hope they do turn it on, not just as a fan, but to see everyone pull back on this stuff again. It's funny.
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Also, strongly disagree that the Packers were masquerading as anything the previous two seasons. They were really good. They were good enough to nearly beat Tampa and IMO they were the clear-cut best team in the league last year and REALLY blew it. They ran LA out of the building and consistently won tough games all year. I'd concede that their record was inflated the first year under MLF but they were a very good team each of the last two seasons.
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I don't know if overrated is the right word but it's just hard to gauge how good a coach actually is when 2/3 years the QB won MVP and is already a HOF player. I think it's totally fair to question his merits. He certainly deserves more than half a season to figure it out after going 39-10, but in an odd way he'll be judged more harshly than if he had gone 5-11, then 8-8, then 13-4.
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Baloney, it's the exact same stuff he was doing last year and the year before that and the year before that. He has always worn his emotions on his sleeve when his cast makes mistakes. He doesn't tolerate them. Historically no one cares when you win 4 MVPs. That's the standard he holds everyone to, including himself, and why he is successful. When you falter, all of the sudden people have this big problem with it. And again, at multiple times this season, he has said he has to be better, it starts with me, etc. Multiple times. I don't know why people just gloss over that and focus on him saying others have to be better. They do. Is everyone watching these games? The converted a 4th and 1 and lost possession solely because they couldn't catch the ball. The supposed best corner in football got torched for a deep TD. They've all sucked. Maybe he is sick of lazy practice habits. I don't know. I think he has earned the right to say whatever he wants about his teammates. Basically has kept this team from killing itself for 15 years. When his play drops from exceptional to above average they suddenly can't win a game. Can't imagine having to be that perfect so consistently. Doesn't anyone really, honestly believe that Rodgers isn't hard on himself? Does anyone actually believe you can be this good for this long at this level of competition without the ability to be introspective and recognize flaws in your game?
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Here's the point: Were you complaining about his body language last season when they were sitting 6-1 or whatever and he was berating guys for not being where they are supposed to or missing blocks? Because he was doing it then and I heard crickets. This body language thing resurfaces every time the Packers have a bad month. The obvious reply is that it was ok because Rodgers was playing better. Ok, sure. But if Rodgers's gripes here are legitimate then it is happening more than it has in the past. I don't see how his comments are poor leadership. It's accountability. When guys say nothing they are soft and coddling, speak up and it is bad leadership I guess. Tough crowd. I'm sure he's talked to these players behind closed doors. I doubt they are too busted up about vague comments he makes to Pat McAfee. Probably not the right career for them if otherwise.
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Ah yes. The classic body language pull. The one thing that absolutely never changes but is always an issue during losses. When you win it's demanding perfection. When you lose it's bad body language. You guys watch too much ESPN. 90% could be called holding guys accountable which yes, he should be doing. Particularly if the effort isn't there Tuesday - Saturday from some guys. Which he would know and we would not.
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He has always said things like this. It's a headline and making you angry now only because the team is 3-4. Much ado about nothing. They have looked like garbage and he's said multiple times that he has to be better. I'm just more convinced than ever there is literally nothing he can say without it being the wrong thing. They've had 1 loss halfway through year before and he's said guys need to clean things up and we're not at full speed yet. Nobody cared. The "time is catching up" stuff is also kinda comical to me. I mean at some point, yeah that is true. But this forum told me that 4 seasons ago. I'm sort of 50/50 on this year. I can see them getting it together because they usually do. But this is the first time I've wondered if the talent is really there for that to be possible. The offense is bad.
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We did not make the playoffs obviously but this sort-of-continues a pretty eerie trend - some obvious because we lost in the LCS, but: 1981 Brewers knocked out by WS team 1982 Brewers knocked out by WS champ 2008 Brewers knocked out by WS champ 2011 Brewers knocked out by WS champ 2018 Brewers knocked out WS team 2019 Brewers knocked out by WS champ 2020 Brewers knocked out by WS champ 2021 Brewers knocked out by WS champ 2022 Brewers eliminated in reg. season by at least WS team
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The final play tells me Rodgers knows he can't get a good deep ball with his hand banged up. Any other time he's chucking that into the end zone. Probably the least of their problems though.
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The defense hasn't lived up to it's "this defense will be phenomenal" billing but they are certainly not to blame to the extent the offense is. You have to keep your defense off the field at some point. They haven't done that at all this season.
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It's a weird place to be when your QB makes a zillion dollars but you're certain the game is over once down two possessions
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The QB is like 40 so I think that was true regardless
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Dumb whiney thing but it drives me nuts when they've been calling players "former Commanders" or "ex Commanders"
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If you go back to the predictions thread or wherever we started posted those, this is sort of the season I anticipated but not for any genius reasons. I just had the feeling that 13 wins 3x in a row was impossible enough, that a struggle season felt overdue. I'll admit they look worse than I ever imagined though. But I don't see a reason to give up on the season. Disclaimer: I am NOT predicting a Super Bowl, but go back to the 2010 season. There is admittedly way more talent in the skill position group on that roster but the team was struggling BADLY on offense up through about 3/4 mark of the season. They were even 3-3 after two pretty bad OT losses to the Redskins and Dolphins. The NFL season is more of a marathon than the once a week format would have you believe. It is long and transformational and you just have to be in the dance at the end.
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Imo they do. They need to ditch the nonstop motion and just run a WCO.
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There's no way this is solely the WR group. They looked very good last year without Adams. It's definitely some youth at WR but imo the offensive line is just badly disjointed. They need to figure that out to get this thing fixed. It all starts there.
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You keep saying this but it really doesn't make a lot of sense. He was coming off back to back MVPs and most prognosticators had this team as a big dog again in the conference. This is also where I do the obligatory reminder that it is October and while the Packers look pretty meh, they are right in the thick of a playoff spot. The NFL can be very developmental even in the middle of a season. The smart money is that the Packers are a wild card team or bubble miss, but the NFC is really not very good. It's completely plausible for them to get things going in the next 2 months. But I don't think a potential 4-3 record is "boy I should have traded Aaron" territory.
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No way that pass was catchable.
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Just blowing someone out would probably do a lot for this team's psyche right now. Even if they suck.
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Bakh is turning into GB's Yelich.
