OldSchoolSnapper

I really haven't a clue who they should hire. Just hope they get it right.

You've said similar things before, and I don't understand it. You don't think fans of lots other franchises in various sports expect to win? That's ONLY Packer fans? Seems like a bit of a strawman argument. I think the vast majority of Packer fans DID expect this team to make it to more than one SB over this long TT/MM era. I think that was a reasonable expectation. Losing multiple times at home in the playoffs and blowing the game at Seattle lands on the HC. Is he 100% responsible? Of course not. But you also can't say he doesn't deserve any of the blame. Packer fans are no different than any other fans. A coach becomes unpopular, everyone piles on. As I said earlier, I agree there's no need to be gleeful about it either. But some fans that wanted him gone are openly gloating about it, and that's fine with me too. It is a sport, and fans are allowed to get excited about these things. I don't feel sorry for MM. The man has a SB ring, a street named after him, millions of dollars, and will coach again. I said only Packers fans in WI. Not only Packers fans. The Packers following has more in common with the St. Louis Cardinals than a lot of us would like to admit, and yes many of them do strike me as extremely entitled. One too many of them have taken the "we own the team!" stuff a tad close to the heart. McCarthy worked his rear off and ran his course. He gave the franchise his best for 13 years, that's what the fans deserved.

Sorry, but if McCarthy winds up coaching another team and they play the Packers, there is no way way he will not take extra pleasure in putting 40 points on them. I don't care what he publicly says. I'm not taking it personally nor do I think he is...it's the fans that I would enjoy seeing knocked down a peg or two. In fact, use of the word "personally" is a bit funny, since that is exactly what I would say about most of the fans. They seem to take this all very personally and have made an enemy of a good man who by all accounts worked his tail off and failed. There's nothing wrong with "It wasn't working out any longer," but a lot of the vitriol has gone way, way beyond that.

I agree with the decision to let McCarthy go, but stuff like this starts to lose me. I think fans that constantly call for change usually get ignored because they're like the guy at a football watch party that yells 'watch the fake' before every punt.... he's wrong 99% of the time, but he relishes looking like a genious the one time each season he's right. Not every game is lost because of coaching. Not every high draft pick is an all-pro. 31 teams in the NFL finish the year disappointed. The Packers have been on a stretch of success that isn't exceeded by any other franchise except for the Patriots. Yeah, it's time for a fresh start on this staff. But the guys who have been let go over the past 11 months deserve a lot of credit for building and maintaining that success even if their success caused them to be held onto a bit too long. Should they have won more? Maybe. But how many other teams wonder that as well? It's a question with an unprovable answer. Yeah, the roster has deteriorated over the past few seasons. Partially due to aging talent, partially due to bad drafting, partially due to drafting to (correctly, IMO) try and fix the defense at the expense of the offensive talent. Is that McCarthy's fault? Not by himself, certainly not. But just like in 2005, you addressed the issue in the F.O. and gave the coach a year to stay on and it ended up not working out. With a new face in the F.O., as with Thompson, this offseason is likely to put more of Gute's stamp on the direction of the franchise than the 1st did. Time for a fresh start with a new face on the sideline. I only hope it works out as well or better this time as it did in '05... with us in the NFC Championship game two seasons later. What rubs me the wrong way is the party as if McCarthy is intentionally losing games. It's a hard sport, and they won a lot of games. This idea that the fans are entitled to glorious winning really turns me off. You only see it with the Packers in WI; I get that success can spoil people. But they're going to have periods where they aren't very good. Wanting what's best for the team is a far cry from having such strong animosity toward a guy that had a million times more invested in it than any fan. I have to admit again, there's a piece of me that feels like the fans deserve a decade or two of losing again. I don't want the franchise to see bad times, but I feel like I'm reconciling that with how annoying the fans are.

He has hung 45 on lots of teams over the years. I don't think it's as simple as "he couldn't do it with Rodgers." There are lot of structural problems with this operation right now. He is the fall guy at the moment that undoubtedly shares blame, but there is plenty to go around and he was the next whipping post in line.

Only report I've seen is that McCarthy didn't it coming. So I'm not sure it was went down like that, but we'll never really know.

I'm fully anticipating they go with a little-known non-retread and the fanbase will absolutely lose its mind that it isn't Harbaugh or Bill Cowher or some other stupid idea. Had MM been fired last season, 80% of the fans would have been clamoring for Gruden this morning.

I get that they make the big bucks and it's part of the territory and all that, but it is pretty gross to me that people can be so ecstatic about a guy getting fired in such a bold way. Just caught some radio on my way in and my FB feed, just settle down people. Have a little dignity. I have to admit, a small part of me is already thinking about McCarthy coaching somewhere else putting up 45 on the Packers next year. A piece of me would enjoy some part of that.

I'll go ahead and just say hire Joe Lombardi because cool.

Calling the firing of someone midseason not classy is a little much for me. It's a multibillion dollar industry. If you don't think you have the right guy, you can fire him, regardless of what he's done in the past.

I'm also sad about it too. I think it's weird if you're not at least a little. Guy had a big part in getting the title back home and it ends for him so unceremoniously. So, so many exciting games and teams under him. Can't imagine how he feels knowing he isn't the coach of the Green Bay Packers anymore after so many years.

McCarthy will be revered a few years from now. This is a fairly normal end of honeymoon as an NFL coach. Plenty of people had venom for Holmgren. Who can forget him getting into it with a fan in 98?

Pettine et al are in a weird spot. New HC may want his own guys.

Rodgers calls plenty of his own plays. His arrogance shares a part of the blame in their recent struggles. This move had to happen, but I'm still sad about. From a nostalgic point of view if nothing else. It stinks for someone to reach the mountain and get fired midyear from that franchise. I feel for the guy, and I hope he succeeds elsewhere.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the leadership structure is a facade. McCarthy will be fired and they'll announce Gute has full authority over coaching. I think they just did it last season because McCarthy threw a hissy fit and they wanted to calm him down. Mistake #1, but I don't buy that Murphy will really be calling those shots.

They used to let you turn around and buy their other gift cards with the Target cards. That made it really nice. So that $270 could be used to buy $300 on Amazon or Disney or something. Shut that down this year.

This may just be anecdotal, but I have never really felt good with Crosby kicking game-tying or game-winning kicks. I don't have any data in front of me, but he seems like a Vanderjagt that blows a lot of big ones or they just barely squeak in by the grace of god. I don't recall him drilling many big time kicks. The one that sticks out is the one he hammered into the wind to force OT in the 2014 NFCCG. The 2016 Dallas playoff game too, but that ball seem to get assisted by God when it turned.

With 8 seconds left and no timeouts trying to get closer is a bit risky. I think most teams kick there, but boy what a hot mess of a season. Another week that feels so much like '08.

Lol, very fitting conclusion.

I think the offense just needs a reset. I really don't think it's personnel. It's that McCarthy is running his old offense with personnel that doesn't suit it. Plenty of talent that a fresh scheme can score points with.

This season just needs to end. I've been in and out of this game but I think this is the last glimpse for me.

I'd guess he isn't fired because why? It doesn't make much difference. Seems like it'd be more annoying for them than anything else.

He'll be back. Won't play this year, but it will do the whole rehab schtick and come back.

Oof. I can see why. You really want to sit in the cold rain for this? Man, they are stale this season.

This is one of the more rational rebuttals I have read to his strategy. I first found it years ago, but I think it's a decent argument that rises above the usual slop. https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/what-mr-money-mustaches-gets-right-and-wrong/