Roderick
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What's the one move you wish we would have made?
Roderick replied to brewerfan82's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I agree 50%. Cain is Cain and if he helps us, which he does, I want him. But I wanted Lynn. He was the value signing of the offseason. Yeah, I'm sure Cain will technically help. But I think he is getting us from 81 wins to 84 wins, while getting a year older in the process. Another OF also brings along the potential for morale problems with not enough at bats to go around. I hope I am proven wrong and the wins are enough to challenge for the playoffs. I just think if you weren't going to pull the trigger on pitching, I would have ran with Braun/Yelich/Santana with Broxton/Phillips on the bench and banked the cash forward. And if you have enough pitching for 2019 and forward, then you can find the missing positional piece to push you over the edge. -
What's the one move you wish we would have made?
Roderick replied to brewerfan82's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
The Big 1: Either sign Cain, but then at minimum sign Lynn. Or don't sign Cain if you weren't going to follow up with acquiring more starting pitching than Chacin. The Little 1: Thing that came back to bite even though it wasn't a guaranteed contract was the Vogt signing. Hopefully Bandy provides some bat this year or Vogt comes back and has at least more than a noodle arm. Don't want to wear down Pina like last year. -
Boone Logan - $2.5M guaranteed
Roderick replied to KeithStone53151's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
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I understand your logic, but I think this is more applicable. It really would have been a Braun/Yelich/Santana OF if Stearns knew he couldn't unload Santana. So the comparison actually is: I feel the increase to Lance Lynn from Guerra/Miley/Woodruff is more than the increase to Cain from taking starts away from Braun/Santana/Thames
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If Lorenzo Cain wasn't going to be 32 in a few weeks, I'd be more on board with this line of thinking. My thoughts. If they just trade for Yelich, that is a youth for youth move and there is no expectation of adding pitching. And I am okay with that. But, if you are going to sign Cain, then you can't sit on the sidelines anymore, as your window has started (no I don't assume any position player is going to be what they once were when they hit about 33). Tack on not having a trade for Santana in place (I don't care if it fell through) and not adding a starter when Lynn/Cobb were darn affordable. I won't blame him for locking in Sogard as who knew that the prices of everything would fall like this. And I guess he didn't lock in Vogt, but here we are stuck with his price for the year, right? Must be some type of morale guy.
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Are we assuming someone scoops him up or that he would decide not to stay in Milwaukee's system?
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No. A player can now only get one QO in their life. Thanks. I didn't assume it would matter. Probably 10% chance that Lynn looks so good they would want to QO and probably about a 15% that he really sucks. He seems to be pretty steady.
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Curious if we went to $14.5M for one year if we would be the team. For no long-term strings attached, I would gladly give up that price and a 4th round pick. I don't know why people think you should only give up a draft choice if you are signing a guy to a multiyear deal. I would rather have a short term deal for 30+ year old pitchers, and would pay more to get that, and that "more" is the draft pick. And since we already gave up one pick, you might as well piggyback as the next pick will be a round lower. Gives Nelson, Burnes and Ortiz a year to be ready for 2019. If Lynn is awesome, I assume you can QO him, right? Get better pic back or him for another year. I will be cheesed off if they don't get anyone and then Lynn has a decent year and the Brewers ended up one starter short of being in the playoffs. If Lynn sucks for some reason, you won't feel compelled to keep him on the roster because you have more year(s) sunk into him. Nice insurance policy.
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Depends on how much the vesting costs and criteria are and assuming the opt out leaves enough planning time, I would think this would be something the Brewers should look. The opt outs let Arrieta get back into the free agency game when the owners act their usual self next year or two, and the vesting options give him the career money assuming he doesn't get injured. Plus, more importantly, the opt outs and vesting allow the agent and player to save face.
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You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - the most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go in negotiating for a starting free agent pitcher against David Stearns when the playoffs are on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...
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I have to think there is some money in concessions, parking, and the previously mentioned merch revenues for each sellout playoff game. Probably net $300k+ a game after labor/supplies. I wonder how much advertising money they make on in-stadium signage (permanent, scrolling). I would assume they get a little bit more for the playoffs for the scrolling adverts. Don't know how much extra revenue they would receive from TV and radio...
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Yeah, you could sign Arrietta to his demands and our playoff chances have increased for this year. But our playoff chances have more than likely decreased for 2020 and 2021. Why do you say this? Because history has shown that usually a 32 year old player is not performing up to his pay on the back end of a high paying four year free agent contract. And the longer you wait and the more opportunities given, the better your chances are of finding someone in house that can pitch just as good as Arrieta will be in 2020 and 2021 at a much cheaper price. Thus allowing those funds to be saved and used for the last piece we need to push us to a playoff contender in those years. I'm just using the percentages and talking about Arrietta money now. Now, maybe the playoff chances for 2018 and 2019 are more important to DS and he goes for Arrieta. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. If we are talking 4 years $96M for Arreita and 3 years $48M for Cobb. Give me Cobb. If it is between Cobb and 2 years of Lynn at $26M, give me Lynn.
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For you old timers, it seemed like Ken Ruettgers held out every other year for the Packers, partially to try to get more money, but also so he could skip training camp.
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Yeah, but only going with four man bench.
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Yeah, you could sign Arrietta to his demands and our playoff chances have increased for this year. But our playoff chances have more than likely decreased for 2020 and 2021.
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http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/baseball/professional/brewers-ryan-braun-has-eventful-day-at-first-base-in/article_8704739b-65b1-5016-830c-a48887a80a04.html Braun committed his first error of the spring at first base, contributed to his most highlight-worthy defensive play to date and caught a pair of tricky popups. It was Braun’s third game at a position he might occasionally man in the regular season. The error came in the first inning, when Braun fielded a Francisco Lindor bouncer and made an off-target lob to Brewers starting pitcher Jhoulys Chacin covering the bag. Chacin took the blame. “I heard Lindor coming. I tried to catch the ball and hit the bag at the same time,” Chacin said. “I should have caught it and then gone for the bag. That’s my fault.” An inning later, catcher Jett Bandy and Braun combined for a defensive gem. With Lindor batting and speedster Rajai Davis at first base with two outs, Bandy made a snap throw to first and Braun spun in time to lay a quick tag for the final out of the frame.
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This. No team in a position to trade for a closer (hoping to be in playoffs), is going to give up a TOR. It is illogical. You can trade your closer for a haul of prospects, but you might as well wait until trading deadline.
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It's not my money and I am concerned big time because I am a Brewer fan. As a fan, I would be afraid that if it doesn't work out, the Brewers are somewhat handcuffed with what they can accomplish because so much of the budget is tied up. The other problem, it seems to me that you sign a big name, and after a year or two they really aren't worthy of a rotation spot or a lineup spot, but you have put so much money into him, you won't put him in the bullpen or bench as you would if it was another player. Suffering a death by a thousand cuts.
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"Don't you ... forget about me." - Jett Bandy Jett - Don't forget your bat (out of hell) this year then.
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This is precisely why I'm so against putting all the eggs in one basket and trading multiple assets for a pitcher at this point in the season. Imagine how deflating this would have been had the Brewers just acquired Stroman Sounds like he would probably be back after maybe missing two weeks, so I don't see it being a big deal.
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Just keeping him fresh for an early "CC" like trade. Combine that with Burnes coming in as the "1992 Cal Eldred" for half a year. To steal a line, Why not the Brewers?
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There is risk by the Brewers, it just isn't as much financial as roster management. Walker is going to hit the end of the line sometime, and if it happens in 2018... The risk is that the Brewers will cut the wrong person if they sign Walker. Who gets the ax? Cut Villar/Aguilar and he lights it up for someone else at bottom dollar is a risk. Same it they cut Perez or Sogard and then need some versatility because of injuries (Walker). I can see Lucroy as an obvious improvement over Vogt (even against righty pitchers). But, is he going to be cancer in the clubhouse if he is splitting time with Pina or heaven forbid getting less than half time because Pina is showing he is better, at least for this year.
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It was talked about in the rumors board how it may or may not effect their ability or desire to sign a starting pitcher.
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Not even close to the incentives that it would take for the starting pitchers. Holland isn't going to take a deal that includes saves incentive when we have Knebel. Not interested in spending money on 2B or C until we have figured out what we are doing with starting pitching. I don't know if Walker ever gets that low. If he does.... Ignoring Villar for the moment - Perez and Sogard are better than Walker on defense, right? I think you platoon Perez and Sogard and their defense makes up for the offense that Walker gives you.