Again, I will say that alot of this is related to the personnel that Melvin has given him.... There are quite a few players throughout MLB who have struggled, like Casey, in the 1st half, Uggla chief among them. Casey has put up a .800+ OPS 2 straight years, they are going to give him plenty of time to figure it out. No GM in baseball would DFA him at this point. OK, the 5 hole, who else are you going to put there? Corey Hart is the logical choice against rhp, I see that, but Corey was very inconsistent in parts of this year. The Kotsay thing I don't get. But again, Kotsay is who Melvin gave him. Same with Nieves. Kottaras, we all like him because he can hit, but every other MLB manager likes him too, because they know they can run on him and can count on him X amount of passed balls per game (there's a stat for you!) Lucroy in the 8 hole. If the bottom of Roenicke's order isn't somewhat balanced, we get 2 outs in 4 or 5 pitches with Betancourt & the pitcher. Or vs lhp 3 outs in 6 or 7 pitches with Betancourt, Gomez & the pitcher. (possibly the most brutal 7, 8, 9 in baseball)... the bullpen, other than Axford, is filled with guys who have very questionable talent levels or are way over the hill. I put that on Melvin, not Roenicke. Joe Torre or Casey Stengall couldn't work magic with that bullpen We expect alot because of the talent the Brewers have but they have a ton of holes too.