"Lowballed?" It's tough to "lowball," a guy who's played a couple weeks in the big leagues if you are indeed correct and it was a couple months ago. I thought it was about a month ago. There have been two players signed to contracts before one year of service time, Longoria and then Perez I believe from KC. Braun was 1.001.... I remember suggesting a Segura extension about two months ago before it had come up on here and everyone thought it was crazy and there were of course the obvious, "small sample size," comments. That said, I don't know where you're getting the part that I put in bold. There is just absolutely no basis for that. Again, we're not yet 3 months into the season. While I wanted the Brewers to lock him up long term 2 months ago, you were suggesting they do so after a couple weeks in the majors in which he was playing well at the age of 23. So where do you get this notion that the BREWERS are the ones who should be expected to "overpay?" That's just ridiculous IMO. Segura could be having a career year. I don't know, maybe he gets better. He could get hurt. He could add weight and end up as a second basemen. Of the two sides that's going to give here it's GOING to be Segura's side. That's kinda the point. He signs for 8 years and 40 million and never has to worry about money again and then still has a chance for the big time payday. Also, when you "guess," it was for 30 million...for what period of time? I just don't see how you possibly come out of this and try to assign ANY blame whatsoever to the Brewers for lowballing anyone or waiting too long. It's ridiculous. And again, I started a thread about this very topic in April so I agree they should have signed him. But the other side has to be willing to sign it, and the last thing Segura's agent said was they were trying to determine his value. Yes, lowballed. I said before we even knew what we had in Segura that a long term extension in the 40+ million range would be sufficient and might get it done should his agent decide "not" to wait. What's funny is that the Brewers also knew what they had in Segura and was basically reading my mind. The question is was there offer high enough? I have my doubts. By the way to answer your "overpay" question, it's really simple. When you offer a player who plays a premium position a long term deal with hardly any service time (pre-arby), you better be serious about it. No matter what, technically it will be considered an overpay, because of how little service time he has and compared to money committed, but a talent like Segura which I knew from his first AB how good he truly was, you better make the offer so good he doesn't want to even think about it. That didn't happen. I'm skeptical in how the Brewers handled this, and I believe if there offer was serious he would be signed right now. That's my opinion and nothing more.