Wow, pretty harsh towards the 90s. They had some solid teams. Wasn’t it 1998 they printed playoff tickets before a miserable Sept? I still have them in my dad’s house. Jeff Cirillo, Fernando Vina, Mark Loretta, jeromy Burnitz, David Nilsson, John Jaha....all good players. Even Jose Valentin, despite his strikeouts and poor D, was good. We had solid bullpens. If we had any pitching at all, we might have had winning seasons Some solid teams? They finished second place one single time...that was their highest accomplishment. I think the gas a 83 win team, an 80 win team, and then all down hill from there. The 90s teams sucked and their uniforms were quite fitting. MrTPlush, as is usual, we disagree. In this case it's on the wording. I replied that they had some solid players on those teams, listing quite a few good players. You're focusing on the end product of those teams--their records. However, they even had a few competitive (you'll argue the word "competitive," but I mean around .500. In other words "not miserable") years that unfortunately didn't break the losing ways of the 90s. In 1997 they were over .500 in early September. In 1998 they were over .500 into early August. Some other years weren't so bad. In hindsight, we had a good core of players. We weren't terrible by any stretch of the imagination. Unfortunately we had an owner that couldn't keep up with the modern economics of the game, an outdated ballpark with limited revenue streams, a weak GM, and terrible results with early draft picks.