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  1. I don't see this as having any different effect than having the #5 starter and long man rotate after every bad outing or two like so many managers do when searching for that effective 5th starter. This is a good argument as to the possible effect. But the premise of a platoon leaves doubt in a players mind as to what to expect in the future. If Bush pitches well, will he earn the spot? When all is said and done, if the Brewers make the playoffs both of them will be in the bullpen. Who cares who the #5 starter is right now, as long as its the best pitcher available. Right now I would have to say Dave Bush, but I guess I could be wrong. I think he has better off speed stuff and he locates better, therefore giving up fewer walks. I was in Colorado when he gave up a first inning grand slam, and I was ticked. But he's been dealing lately, and can go 6+ innings routinely. I just don't get the platoon rationale. It seems contrived.
  2. Bucky, just because it has been argued CC only adds 2 wins doesn't mean that will be the final outcome, nor that its based in any type of fact. I can churn data and argue he will add 5 wins to the season total (I believe he has already added 2 wins). That doesn't mean my argument would be correct or based in fact. And yes, if McClung and Bush both get messed up to the point where neither are effective over the course of a month (or possibly more), 2 more losses is not that much of a stretch. The biggest reason I am irritated by this move is that Bush has been improving while McClung has been regressing. Seth has done a servicable job filling the #5 spot in the rotation, and I commend him for most of his performances. But he should be in the bullpen, bottom line. Home/away starting pitcher platoon. It even sounds ridiculous. And if this works (which I can't see happening, but I'll eat crow if it does), I have no doubt Ned has already begun conceiving his day/night 8th inning guy platoon and his fan-giveaway/non-fan-giveaway home/away day/night closing pitcher platoon.
  3. No I clearly said I probably would not have done it, butr I don't really have a problem with it. Is that really difficult to understand? Reading comprehension is a skill. Its much clearer to me now. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/eyes.gif I thought some potential factors contributing to this decision could be -- (suppan, bullpen, potential/failed trades). Salaries, Manny Parra, AAA, Clucky. So your support is basically your personal random number generator... clearly Ned is basing this decision off of a couple years of stats showing Dave Bush is a better pitcher at home than on the road. A number was baited for so yes, I generated one between 0 and 2 for discussion. Again, over the years the stats have shown Dave Bush to be a better pitcher on the road than Seth McClung, if not just a better pitcher overall. Therefore rendering the point that Bush is better at home than on the road moot, because he is still better than McClung. Such as? It doesn't make any sense. It delivers the message that neither pitcher is more deserving of being in the rotation (this point would be valid if Bush and McClung were equal, which they're not). It opens all doors to ridiculous platooning patterns.
  4. Good points FTC. As for #2, for once I would like to see Yost assume the role of the Cat pushing the mouse around, rather than vice versa. I think this series comes down to McClung and Suppan. If one of them can put up a quality start, I like our chances of at least splitting the series. 3 wins would be marvelous. 4 wins and I am going to Disneyland.
  5. Its probably not the route I would go, but at the same time I really don't have a problem with it. So you're saying you wouldn't have done it, but you would have done it. Good argument logic, this way you are always covered. I think its a fine way to help define roles for two guys who are going to be part of the team Forgive me if I think this is a bad way to define roles. I am not seeing anything fine about it. who haven't exactly set the world on fire over the course of their careers. Dave Bush has been lighting my Brewer world on fire, good thing he isn't starting tonight http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/ohwell.gif I also believe there may be more 'external factors' (suppan, bullpen, potential/failed trades) going into it than simply how these guys perform at home or on the road. This I am interested in. What type of 'external factors' could go into a decision to enact a home/road starting pitching platoon? Maybe Ned's dog told him to do it?
  6. The number of wins depends on how badly messed McClung and Bush get over this. I'll go with 2 wins, with the residual effects showing up in mid-late August after this failure of an idea is relinquished. Bush and McClung are starting pitchers. Oh wait... Bush, this week you are not a starter, but next week you will be. For a manager that likes his clearly defined roles, this platoon sends a different message. A message similar to one of a ouija board. Oh ouija board, which starter will pitch better this week... M....C....C....L....U....N....G. Thank you ouija board, thank you so much! This decision reeks of snap decision making and reliance on coincidental statistics. There are reasons why this is never done, at least not that I can remember in my baseball following years. I would like other fans/media to have a little respect for a team trying to contend. But its gotta be hard for them to respect the Brewers when they continue to make decisions like this. Especially when its piled on top of many, many other bad decisions. Ouija board, do you work as well with positional players?
  7. I'll ask those who are so opposed to this one more time, what do you expct the ultimate impact of this to be in terms of wins and losses? Negative impact on W/L, negative impact on Bush and McClung, negative impact on Cubs/Cards fans taking Milwaukee (and Yost) seriously, and negative impact on the bullpen (as it would be much improved sans Mota). This decision, while not surprising to me, is a biproduct of Yost thinking again. I wish he would stop doing that. Are you in favor of this platoon, or are you just defending Yost?
  8. Pretty much the opposite actually. Sorry if you misunderstood my post. I understood the part where you said a Weeks/Durham platoon would not be a benefit. Therefore my argument is why start Weeks?
  9. The more I think about it, the more I wish Dave Bush was starting tonight. I feel like the "hot hand" is being stashed. Hopefully Yost has a quick hook on McClung (something like a 3 BB, 3 ER maximum).
  10. Exactly, which is why Durham needs to be installed as the starter. Rickie didn't get it done this year (surprise surprise), so its time to move on to an achiever. Give Weeks a start or two a week, and he has proved to be an effective pinch-hitter. We are going for it, and .326 OBP in the leadoff position isn't gonna get it.
  11. I don't see how this experiment could possibly work out well for Ned. Along the lines of a post at NSBB, if Suppan's splits are 4 runs better on a Tuesday than they are on a Wednesday, then Ned should adjust his rotation to make sure Suppan never pitches on a Wed. The home/road platoon seems overboard bonkers to me. Now that this can of worms is open, there is no stopping where the platooning lunacy can be defined. Let's break out the home/road splits on everybody. Get those computers churning. Does Counsell bat and play better defense than Hardy on the road? Better get him in there for the road games. I feel for Dave Bush, all he has done is dominate over the last month and this is his reward. Dave Bush, you've just been YOSTED!
  12. See to me, Yost's comment was a little bit of player bashing. Yost said, "For me, he has never underachieved because he never achieved up here." This comment leads me to wonder why Rickie Weeks deserves to remain as a starter, especially when the GM just traded for a better producing achiever. Rickie should be relegated to the bench, and Ned's comments/reasoning confirm this is what is best for the club. Why start a guy who has not achieved?
  13. Its time to stand up and declare contendership. I want 3 wins in St Louis, and I want them NOW!!! I also say Seth should be the aggressor this time and give it to Pujols high and tight in the first inning.
  14. The quote that stood out to me was: "I wouldn't say he has underachieved," said Yost. "He has never been a .300 hitter (in the majors), so who says he is underachieving?' "He's working his way up. He's getting better in all phases of his game. For me, he has never underachieved because he never achieved up here. How can you say he has underachieved?" Hmmm...
  15. I belive in MLB, the wild card cannot play the division winner from its own division.
  16. Hopefully Volquez pulls a Brandon Webb.
  17. I saw Fogg pitch at Wrigley back in April, and he just got shelled. I fully expect to see (thanks again Pedro) the Brewers do the same tonight.
  18. I bump Ned up to a C+ for not using Mota yesterday.
  19. Good Lord, Dave Bush you really have outdone yourself today. WTG!!
  20. Jr with a 3-run jack, Cubs down 4. Cards down to their final 2 outs.
  21. Nice offensive inning. 6 runs and no HRs. I love the long ball more than anyone, but sometimes trying to hit them is a detriment.
  22. DLR must be toast. Judging from pitch location on Gameday, he's not really close when he misses.
  23. Good things can happen when walks are introduced. Crazy.
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