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I think a number of teams would offer Marcum a one-year incentive deal, which is why i'd offer arbitration to him to at least get return if he does find a team who wants to give him more.

Lee is signed for 3 more seasons, Greinke isnt, thats probably why

I know this wasnt an option, but id rather offer marcum arbitration and take a risk with him than pick up Wolf's option.

you cant offer Lee a 5-6 year contract at this point because he's in the middle of a $24mil/year contract as it is, for 4 more years.

offer him arb, find out in 12 days if he's going to take it, if not, move on. I think its the most harmless move, and you get an answer quick.

god no

if you're talking about Villenueva coming back, mnight as well talk to Bush and doug Davis, too, and just go back to 2006 :indifferent

okay, so we all know how bad the brewers bullpen was this year, and with the holes uin the rotation with Greinke (boo), Marcum (boo) and Wolf (yay!) all gone or more than likely gone... heres a list of all of the FA arms this winter. as I posted in another thread, there is no way Melvin stands pat with a rotation of Gallardo, Estrada/Fiers and AAA/Narveson. There seems to be a lot of arms on the market this year compared to the last two, so acting as the armchair Doug Melvin, who would you like to see the brewers go out and get for the rotation and bullpen? Starting pitchers Scott Baker (31) - $9.25MM club option Erik Bedard (34) Joe Blanton (32) Fausto Carmona (29) - $9MM club option Bartolo Colon (40) Aaron Cook (34) Kevin Correia (32) Doug Davis (37) Jorge De La Rosa (32) - $11MM player option with a $1MM buyout Ryan Dempster (36) R.A. Dickey (38) - $5MM club option with a $300K buyout Zach Duke (30) Scott Feldman (29) - $9.25MM club option with a $600K buyout Jeff Francis (32) Gavin Floyd (30) - $9.5MM club option Freddy Garcia (37) Zack Greinke (28) Jeremy Guthrie (34) Rich Harden (31) Dan Haren (32) - $15.5MM club option with a $3.5MM buyout Livan Hernandez (38) Tim Hudson (37) - $9MM club option with a $1MM buyout Edwin Jackson (29) Hiroki Kuroda (38) Colby Lewis (33) Francisco Liriano (29) Kyle Lohse (34) Rodrigo Lopez (37) Derek Lowe (40) Paul Maholm (31) - $6.5MM club option with a $500K buyout Shaun Marcum (31) Jason Marquis (34) Daisuke Matsuzaka (32) Brandon McCarthy (29) Kevin Millwood (38) Jamie Moyer (50) Brett Myers (32) - $10MM vesting option with a $3MM buyout Ramon Ortiz (40) Roy Oswalt (35) Carl Pavano (37) Jake Peavy (31) - $22MM club option with a $4MM buyout Brad Penny (35) Joel Pineiro (34) Anibal Sanchez (29) Jonathan Sanchez (30) Ervin Santana (30) - $13MM club option with a $1MM buyout Joe Saunders (32) James Shields (31) - $9MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout Chien-Ming Wang (33) Kip Wells (36) Jake Westbrook (35) - $8.5MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout if club declines Randy Wolf (36) - $10MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout Chris Young (34) Carlos Zambrano (32) Closers Jonathan Broxton (29) Matt Capps (29) - $6MM club option with a $250K buyout Francisco Cordero (38) Kyle Farnsworth (37) Brandon League (30) Ryan Madson (32) - $11MM mutual option with a $2.5MM buyout Juan Carlos Oviedo (29) J.J. Putz (36) - $6.5MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout Mariano Rivera (43) Francisco Rodriguez (31) Joakim Soria (29) - $8MM club option with a $750K buyout Jose Valverde (35) Right-handed relievers David Aardsma (31) - $500K club option Jeremy Accardo (31) Mike Adams (34) Luis Ayala (35) Grant Balfour (35) - $4.5MM club option with a $350K buyout Miguel Batista (42) Dave Bush (33) Shawn Camp (37) Todd Coffey (32) - club option Jose Contreras (41) - $2.5MM club option with a $500K buyout Juan Cruz (34) Octavio Dotel (39) Chad Durbin (35) Nelson Figueroa (39) Jason Frasor (35) Kevin Gregg (35) - $6MM club/vesting option LaTroy Hawkins (38) Aaron Heilman (34) Clay Hensley (33) Ryota Igarashi (34) Bobby Jenks (32) Brad Lidge (36) Matt Lindstrom (33) - $4MM club option with a $200K buyout Mark Lowe (30) Brandon Lyon (33) Mike MacDougal (36) - club option Dustin McGowan (28) Guillermo Mota (39) Peter Moylan (34) Micah Owings (30) Vicente Padilla (35) Joel Peralta (37) Chad Qualls (34) Ramon Ramirez (31) Jon Rauch (34) Chris Ray (31) Fernando Rodney (36) Takashi Saito (43) Rafael Soriano (33) - $14MM player option or a $1.5MM buyout Yoshinori Tateyama (37) Robinson Tejeda (31) Carlos Villanueva (29) Dan Wheeler (35) Kerry Wood (36) - $3MM option Jamey Wright (38) Michael Wuertz (34) Left-handed relievers Jeremy Affeldt (34) Sean Burnett (30) - $3.5MM mutual option with a $250K buyout Tim Byrdak (39) Randy Choate (37) Pedro Feliciano (35) - $4.5MM club option Brian Fuentes (37) - $6.5MM club option with a $500K buyout Mike Gonzalez (35) J.P. Howell (28) Hong-Chih Kuo (31) Will Ohman (35) Darren Oliver (42) - $3MM club option with a $500K buyout J.C. Romero (37) Hisanori Takahashi (38) Dontrelle Willis (31)

the below list are the SP FA for 2013. I removed all the pitchers with team/player options so we see how many rotation arms there are available. I REALLY hope Melvin does not pass up on everyone, and there are a LOT of relief pitchers hitting the market as well. it'll be interesting to see how quickly some of these guys resign with their teams and come off the market. Starting pitchers Erik Bedard (34) Joe Blanton (32) Bartolo Colon (40) Aaron Cook (34) Kevin Correia (32) Doug Davis (37) Ryan Dempster (36) Zach Duke (30) Jeff Francis (32) Freddy Garcia (37) Zack Greinke (28) Jeremy Guthrie (34) Rich Harden (31) Livan Hernandez (38) Edwin Jackson (29) Hiroki Kuroda (38) Colby Lewis (33) Francisco Liriano (29) Kyle Lohse (34) Rodrigo Lopez (37) Derek Lowe (40) Shaun Marcum (31) Jason Marquis (34) Daisuke Matsuzaka (32) Brandon McCarthy (29) Kevin Millwood (38) Jamie Moyer (50) Ramon Ortiz (40) Roy Oswalt (35) Carl Pavano (37) Brad Penny (35) Joel Pineiro (34) Anibal Sanchez (29) Jonathan Sanchez (30) Joe Saunders (32) Chien-Ming Wang (33) Kip Wells (36) Chris Young (34) Carlos Zambrano (32)

I cant imagine doug going through this off season without signing at least one rotation arm. theres no way he goes into 2013 with 4 home-grown arms and Estrada in the rotation. Marcum and Wolf are most likely gone, but i'd have to think out of all the FA SP's this winter, and the small window teams have now to tender offers and resign after the world series, that DM could find someone to come in and fill a spot.

game is nationally broadcast on TBS today for anyone not in Wisconsin or DC

will he take GK's spot on the 40-man? or was that already filled?

game is on TBS tomorrow, for anyone not in the milwaukee/washington broadcast area

still has 3 full days, not worried really

great post, thank you for this! I am really excited for him to have this opportunity! I am hoping he takes full advantage of it!

I WAS HOPING IT WAS PENA!!!! SO STOKED!!! I like this deal! Especially if Texas wasnt going to part with Olt

I WANNA KNOW WHO THE TWO AA ARMS AREEEEEEEEEEEEEE

+111111111111111111111111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

angels win

yeah, i dont like what they did with thornburg... they should have left him in AAA and not rushed him to the brewers and just worked on 2013 for him in the MLB. theyve got a number of arms they could have brought up, peralta, rogers are the ones we know, but they COULD have called up Vargas or McClung (thank god that didnt happen) for a spot start or long reliever situation...

Non-prospect like Quintana who has had a good month in the MLB, plus a couple other similar players? I would honestly prefer the sandwich pick. you are nuts, you'd rather take a player that may never make it out of A+ ball vs players who are actually already playing in the majors???

No then it gets its own transaction thread since it isnt a rumor anymore. way to go ruin all the fun

the second greinke is traded this thread will explode 20 pages

oh he will

im a pens fan, so I love the NHL coverage that I can get, but the steeler/pitt/Penn state coverage here is obnoxious. The one station, 93.7 The Fan FM is so awful. they brought in some ringer from NYC to do their late morning/afternoon show during the week and I seriously want to smash the radio. the NY guy will try and play devils advocate with every possible situation, including the Penn State scandal. havent listened since December. Thank you for the suggestions!!!! I use the TuneIn App, so thats perfect! Thanks Baldkin, too!