Yes, those were SAT scores from the link somebody gave above. Do you really think UW is more selective than Michigan? My point is that they haven't been and Michigan has still been a national power virtually every year until some bad coaching decisions. Whatever UW's problems are, I believe being too academically selective is way down there. Why was GA going after JUCO guys anyway? They have really limited that in the past. I don't remember UM having many JUCO guys either. At least in the past. Okay, Michigan is in a better recruiting area close to Chicago, Ohio, Detroit and Pennsylvania. They also have done better in the South than UW, probably because they were a national power. Still, academics should be a strength and UW should tailor their recruiting to take advantage of that rather than going after marginal academic recruits.