You believe that rotation is about as good as they are ever going to be? I'll take my chances with Hader, Burnes, Peralta, and Woodruff. Then Ortiz, Brown, and Medeiros on the way. If they still need a Chacin type to sprinkle in at some point, that's fine. I agree there's no mythical 4-5 year window. If they stick to a true rebuild they could have a 10-12 year window, who knows. I said those three are as good as they are going to be. The list of pitching prospects you meantioned are just that. Prospects. The performers who are responsible for the current record are for the most part not young. If the next wave is what we hope fine but that's difficult to count on. What we do know for sure is our current roster is firmly in the playoff chase and they need help.