If they can parlay Lucroy into a quality starting pitcher, add an even more mature Hader to the mix, get a rebound from one of Peralta, Garza, or Jungmann, have another arm emerge from the system, and not turn up their noses to the once good starter who's now out there being ignored in FA and is cheap and healthy as a buy low candidate (like a Latos or Chacin were this year), then anything's still possible. I agree that its not hopeless for the rotation in 2017. Id hope at least one of Peralta, Jungmann, or Davies will turn it around and join Nelson. Hader looks to have the stuff to get to the next level once he figures out he doesn't have to strike out every batter. The Luc trade could bring back a possible key starting pitcher. Anderson is a higher end 5th starter/low end 4th starter, which isnt all bad. But, the one area of the team that even I thought would feature legitimate building blocks would be the rotation. So far, this is disappointing.