No it's a legit discussion. Perhaps not the best thread for it though. First, no a big part of the obsession on steroids is the integrity of records and all that. The point about available to all is something valid to right now, I agree there. But this was not available to folks years and years back, and that's a big part of why the old timers were up in arms about it. Onto that point, no not all banned PEDs are bad for people's health. In fact, many of them are prescribed by doctors all the time. The old school Canseco/Mcguire real deal anabolic stuff, yea that's different and I agree. But many modern PEDs banned now are fully available over the counter, legal for average joes and are beneficial to health. I've seen studies saying how great HGH, but that was a few years ago now so I'm not sure if more has come out poking holes in it. So my general take would be to just move the line a bit further to allow more supplements or things in small doses but real deal needles in the arm horse testosterone, yea keep that crazy stuff banned. Like using an alphabet analogy, if A=worse of the worst old school and Z=some run in the mill thing that millions take daily without thinking. Let's say the line is currently set at "P". Well, I'd be fine moving it over to like G or J. That's my two cents and will try to refrain from much more. Most importantly, glad Suter is killing it.