Well the Aguilar trade is brought up because that's how we got Faria. Santana was an example of a good trade at a bad time. The Villar trade made us worse short term and long, as did the Davis trade. The Grisham/Davies trade was a short term disaster, well see how it shakes out long term. My initial statement wasn't just what you quoted by the way, you left off a few words so you could have an easier argument. I'm not going to rehash every trade and every guy he's cut loose for nothing (even though they had value the previous year, or immediately provided value to someone else, but it's pretty clear he's made a lot of what turned out to be bad moves. He's made lots of good ones as well, and we're still technically in the race this year, but it's silly to pretend everything he touches turns to gold. Not one single person on this board has ever stated that everything DS touches turns to gold. Maybe you ought to check yourself before you start calling out people for misquoting. I'm not making an argument, I am asking you to quantify your statement that DS makes a lot of bad trades. No one forced you to make that statement. You have opinions, I get that but you don't really know what players had what value or when they had that value. It just seems weird to claim that players that were not helping this team make the playoffs made team worse when the team started making the playoffs (or at least competing for playoff spots) when those players were gone.