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Laureano is a plus defender, plays CF, isn’t a total chump with the bat, and he’s under team control for two more years. It’s better than shopping for a bargain basement band aid again this off season and a clear upgrade over Tyrone Taylor and Jonathan Davis. What’s not to like? Man, sometimes I think posters here would spit on the Brewers acquiring anyone short of Ohtani or Trout, and even if they got those two guys they’d still grumble that it cost Turang, Frelick and Hiura.

Laureano is a plus defender, plays CF, isn’t a total chump with the bat, and he’s under team control for two more years. It’s better than shopping for a bargain basement band aid again this off season and a clear upgrade over Tyrone Taylor and Jonathan Davis. What’s not to like? Man, sometimes I think posters here would spit on the Brewers acquiring anyone short of Ohtani or Trout, and even if they got those two guys they’d still grumble that it cost Turang, Frelick and Hiura.

Given he is under contract through '27 with an option for '28 at reasonable rates and the fact the Diamondbacks have some blue chip talent on the way in the next couple seasons, they would need to be blown away to move him. One prospect in the MLB Top 100 and some other assorted stuff from Milwaukee likely isn't enticing.

Give us 5 batters in MLB this year with 300+ ABs and a 43% k-rate. There are not any, that’s why he’s in AAA. It’s no different than hitting .185, it’s a ticket to the minor leagues.

Yankees are shopping him. Straight up for Hiura who says no? https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/07/yankees-trade-rumors-shopping-miguel-andujar.html

Just come out and say it! You like Hiura and wished he played everyday. It's fine, that's part of being a fan liking certain players better than others, and imagining what could be/have been. However, don't post non-sense suggesting there isn't a difference between Adames and Hiura. First of all, Hiura without question is a butcher in the field, to the point they've moved him to LF to minimize the times they have to count on his defense. Adames has nearly twice as many at bats as Hiura, nobody knows if Hiura could keep up his numbers playing everyday. Probably not since he doesn't hit lefties, and he hasn't really hit with any consistency since his rookie year and the last couple weeks of June 2022. As for giving Hiura "some rope": I've been following the Brewers since the late 1980s and this is the longest stretch of competitive baseball they've had since that time. The Brewers have given him nearly 1000 plate appearances to establish himself as a regular and he has failed to do so. Moreover, those 1000 plate appearances have been for teams that went to the playoffs including a couple of division winners. Pro-sports are a cut throat business, and the Brewers are trying to win as many games as they can right now. Maybe it seems unfair that Hiura was drafted by the Brewers instead of say the Marlins where they could plug him in everyday no matter what because there was no expectation on the team to win many games. But after nearly 1000 plate appearances its ridiculous to suggest Milwaukee hasn't given him a fair shot. For what it's worth I hoped he'd be the next middle of the order slugger like Ryan Braun, but sure doesn't look like that's going to happen.

Just like the metrics state batting average is irrelevant, teams really don't roster players long-term who cannot hit above .200, same deal with strikeouts. It doesn't matter if its "old baseball," "present-day baseball," if you strike out greater than 35% of the time, a player is going to have tough sledding remaining on a major league roster.

Fair point with Adames, his low OBP suggests he shouldn’t be in the 2 hole though his OPS is 4th on the team. I suspect he bats 2nd for the Left-Right-Left… batting order match up as he is usually followed by Tellez (a lefty). As for Hiura, no team rosters a player long term who strikes out at a 40% clip. There is zero doubt if Keston had 300+ at bats this year that he’d be leading the majors in Ks. For a team that scores most of their runs off homers, I’m sure it’s frustrating to demote one of their better homerun hitters, but despite team coaching, private hitting tutelage, etc. the guy strikes out at a rate that doesn’t cut it in MLB.

Maybe not, but Gallo totally sucks now and doesn’t play CF so he most likely won’t end up being a Brewer

Jonathan Davis has no power to speak of, but he has quietly put together a .365 OPS, doesn't strike out a ton and has played terrific defense. I wouldn't necessarily say Joey Gallo would be any improvement over Davis right now.

This isn't the first time you've denigrated Josh Bell, but you can't have it both ways. Sure Benintendi is a better defender than Josh Bell, but its not even a comparison as to which is the better hitter. This year alone Bell's OPS in 90 points higher than Benintendi's. You can also argue Bell is the more patient hitter with a .387 OBP and a batting average of .302, while Benintendi's OBP is also .387 but with a .320 batting average. Bell's career OBP is .353 to Benintendi's .352. As for being "streaky," players are going to have good months and bad months, For example, Benintendi's OPS was .664 in June. Josh Bell wasn't alone in having a down year during the covid ball season, but pretty much has been the model of consistency year in year out his entire career. I have no idea if Josh Bell will wind up with the Brewers or not, but as I've posted before every contender in the league can find at bats for an .877 OPS hitter.

This isn't the first time you've denigrated Josh Bell, but you can't have it both ways. Sure Benintendi is a better defender than Josh Bell, but its not even a comparison as to which is the better hitter. This year alone Bell's OPS in 90 points higher than Benintendi's. You can also argue Bell is the more patient hitter with a .387 OBP and a batting average of .302, while Benintendi's OBP is also .387 but with a .320 batting average. Bell's career OBP is .353 to Benintendi's .352. As for being "streaky," players are going to have good months and bad months, For example, Benintendi's OPS was .664 in June. Josh Bell wasn't alone in having a down year during the covid ball season, but pretty much has been the model of consistency year in year out his entire career. I have no idea if Josh Bell will wind up with the Brewers or not, but as I've posted before every contender in the league can find at bats for an .877 OPS hitter.

One problem the Brewers have is if their batters do not hit homeruns they typically struggle to score runs. Gallo would only make that problem more extreme. Besides, the Brewers already have the same player in Keston Hiura spinning his wheels in AAA. The Yankees are moving on from Gallo because while he has homered 25 times in less than a full season of games, he hasn't done much else except K. That the Brewers were interested in Benintendi suggests they are probably looking from more contact-type hitters to balance their offense.

They traded for Gallo, and he has hit 25 homeruns in 138 with New York but that's all he's done. Homer and strike out. I know the sabermetrics will hop up and down and argue strike outs are irrelevant, but the reality is there isn't a team in the league who carries a player that strikes out at a 40% clip. Hiura has struck out in 43% of his at bats, Patrick Wisdom leads the NL in Ks and he has "only" struck out 33% of the time. Eugenio Saurez leads the AL in Ks and has "only" struck out 32% of the time. What are the Brewers to do, play a player who strikes out at an unacceptable rate, because in a small sample against exclsuively right-handed pitching he has popped an inordinate amount of homers?

Despite what the sabremetricians say; OPS isn't everything. The Yankees are probably going to DFA Joey Gallo in large part because of his 38% strike out rate.

Davis most likely. Does Brosseaue have options? Great player for Milwaukee but he only plays against lefties. If he has options I’d say his grip on the major league roster is tenuous with the deadline coming up.

Thinking about it, I can picture the Brewers additions being Brandon Drury, David Peralta, Michael Fulmer and Dylan Floro. Peralta is a rental, hits righties well, can be played in LF or DH. As an aging player on a D'backs team going nowhere the talent going back to Arizona would be tolerable. Plus Arizona and the Brewers have hooked up on a few deals recently. Drury, a righty is having a career year for the Reds. A pure rental has hit much better at GABP than on the road. Plays 3B, 2B, 1B, SS and OF. The versatility the Brewers love. Again the Brewers likely wouldn't have to give up front line minor league talent for Drury. Again the Brewers have some history in trading with Detroit at the deadline. Fulmer is another rental, strikes out just about one batter per inning, and keeps the ball in the ballpark (1HR allowed in 37 innings), Dylan Floro maybe the costliest to acquire because he comes with an extra year of team control. He's adept at keeping the ball in the ballpark and doesn't issue a lot of walks. Maybe the Brewers could get lucky and get rid of Corey Ray as the Marlins are desperate to find a centerfielder.

He has only landed 54% of his pitches, for strikes. He won't be anything in the major leagues unless he can get that percentage up significantly. Otherwise, he's constantly behind in counts and doesn't have the stuff to blow it by hitters.

I guess you can say he’s been rushed with less than 150 minor league innings since being drafted in ‘19. But he was walking 4.5/per 9 in the minors. In the big leagues, where players are more selective, he will have no margin for error unless he improves his command significantly

We’re seeing something you don’t see too often, a players prospect status dim in real time.

Yep, a two pitch starter with poor command and a below average swifty , doesn’t impress.

Got to be in it, to win it homie.

Got to be in it, to win it homie.

Damn, those are a lot of holes! Yet they’ve been in first place almost since day one…. As for Bell, every lineup in the league can use a guy with an .850+ OPS. Let’s not have any of this “not a good fit” nonsense.

Damn, those are a lot of holes! Yet they’ve been in first place almost since day one…. As for Bell, every lineup in the league can use a guy with an .850+ OPS. Let’s not have any of this “not a good fit” nonsense.