Jopal78
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Lots of pro athletes are jerks, but Bumgarner never was convicted of felonies., and went to prison so I don’t if anyone can credibly say Bush is the better human. The point is: Bumgarner (despite reputation) is not far removed from being amongst the best pitchers in the game. He never there hard, and I haven’t looked at the metrics so I don’t know the basis of his extreme struggles this year (mechanics v. diminished stuff). To me, seems like he could be a #5/long reliever at a rock bottom price for a pitching hungry team lien Milwaukee. At no risk, why not?
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Well, they already have Matt Bush one of the few ex-cons in pro sports. So it’s not inconceivable based on reputation/history, plus they currently have Colin Rea a 32 year old journeyman with a career era of nearly 5 in their rotation and no other healthy SP depth to speak of.
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Bumgarner DFA’d Been real bad this year, but maybe an upgrade over Rea? Not sure what the metrics say.
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Well, less than a month ago he was on waivers and every single team in the majors passed on giving him a roster spot. I’m not sure of the current CBA rules but I believe if he rejected reporting to AAA after going unclaimed and being out-righted he would have forfeited his salary. Thus I think it’s a marriage of convenience, Hiura bides his time in AAA while collecting a paycheck and the Brewers have another depth piece at AAA should a rash of injuries hit.
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He got 1000 PAs with the Brewers they’ve given him plenty of opportunities. I think at this juncture they’ve moved on and barring a rash of injuries he won’t see the home dugout in Milwaukee again. Though if he continues to do his usual destruction of AAA pitching maybe the Brewers could swap him to Kansas City or Oakland for more bullpen depth like those they’ve been soaking up recently.
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Twins extend Pablo Lopez for four years, $73m
Jopal78 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I’m not going to quibble too much, but the point of those extensions are to pay more up front than they normally would in order to get those extra years on the back end. This if the Twins indeed walk from Kepler and Polanco they will have paid more money than they would have going year to year for nothing; not too mention while none of those contracts are budget busting on their own it is 26 million dollars to just Kepler, Polanco and Dobnak for their salaries this year and buy outs, thats approx. 1/7 the Twins payroll this year. i’m sure at some point in the last several years the Brewers did their due diligence with their key players and determined that none were interested in giving them extra years or taking a discount, so like Jose Berrios in Minnesota there wasn’t much more to discuss. -
Twins extend Pablo Lopez for four years, $73m
Jopal78 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Sure, but look at Jose Berrios, he was smart to turn down the Twins extension overtures as he did better for himself. Plus the Twins are a good example of how extensions don’t always work out either… while not pitchers, the Twins missed with Max Kepler and Dobnak. Polanco’s extension doesn’t look real good right now, and they owe a soon to be 30 year old Buxton 90 million dollars from now to the end of his extension when he hasn’t had 400 PAs in a season since he was 23. -
I bet it’s 3 months or more.
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Back to the original point: see Trayce Thompson. Textbook definition of a journeyman/AAAA player, you name it. He has a 3.8 WAR in 800 PAs and he’s been with 8 different clubs in some capacity in his career. Plus, he’s been generally available twice in the last calendar year.
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That he was the #93 prospect in baseball in ‘15, 3 years after being drafted and 4 full seasons before he debuted in the majors is arguing semantics. Just as arguing a difference between labeling someone mediocre/dime a dozen/replacement level/AAAA player.
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But it’s neither lazy nor factually incorrect. Pro baseball players who can run and play defense are a dime a dozen. Players who pop a home run here and there but fail to get on base more than 30% of the time are also a dime a dozen. Again, I’ll cite my example of Trayce Thompson his stat line and experience is very similar to Taylor’s and Thompson has been with 8 different clubs in some capacity during his career. Taylor is a feel good story, a 2nd round pick out of high school who never was a prospect, yet showed perseverance and beat the odds and made it to the major leagues. That being said, let’s not kid ourselves. He’s valuable as a bench player because he’s versatile and cheap. As he gains experience he will no longer be as cheap and unless he adds to his game ( ie. If he could get his OBP up to .330 he’d probably be a 10 year bet no problem) he will inevitably become less valuable. That’s the way it is for mediocre players.
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If your metric suggests that Tyrone Taylor is similar in isolated slugging to Manny Machado, Anthony Rizzo, Alex Bregman, then you probably shouldn’t use it anymore. I do get what you’re trying to argue, but when you’re lumping one player in with some others who have three times as many PAs, it’s not persuasive.
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I guess he should be starting every day then! 😜 Taylor has 729 PAs over the time span you cited. Rizzo has 1900, Machado has 2100, Altuve and Bergman have 2000+ so your metric comparison doesn’t mean anything. Players without an elite tool and career .300 OBPs are journeyman, as mentioned earlier, the difference between Taylor and Trayce Thompson is negligible and Thompson has already been with 8 different organizations in some capacity during his career.
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Tyrone Taylor’s best asset is he’s mediocre at every facet of the game. He’s Trayce Thompson (who’s been with 9 different organizations already): he’s just a guy who isn’t good enough to be an everyday regular but not bad enough to wash out the major leagues. If the Brewers are worrying about the roster status of Taylor, it probably means the season has gone really far off the rails.
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Fan experience during the Giannis Jersey give away
Jopal78 replied to not enough jerseys's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I never understand how little value people put on their free time, waiting in line hours for something that’s a corporate sponsor freebie? If it’s something a mega fan simply needs to have, wait two weeks, they’ll all be $50 or less on eBay and two hours of my free time is worth more to me than $40-$50 bucks -
I not surprised he cleared waivers. It’s the 40% k rate and complete lack of defensive skills. That’s a bad combo to be seeking a bench spot with. Teams that can afford, talent wise, to attempt to catch lightning in a bottle, probably didn’t want to do so at his salary. Teams that can afford payroll wise to add him, probably had better options for their last roster spot.
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The best starting pitchers in the world are in the major leagues. Hiura was initially able to hit them until pitchers adjusted how they attacked him, and heretofore he has been unable to make a successful counter-adjustment. That is exclusively why his MLB career is hanging by a thread. The dustbin of MLB history is littered with stories like that. If anything is unique about his scenario, it’s the Brewers patience in letting him continually try to put it together at the major league level.
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If Hiura was claimed off waivers the claiming team assumes his contract. I believe if he goes unclaimed he could be outrighted off the 40 man roster to AAA, where he would collect his 2.2 million dollars.
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The salaries for players in arbitration are not fully guaranteed until they make the team. They’ll owe Hiura some termination pay but not 2.2 million. Maybe somebody claims him.
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The league year has started and the Packers are under the cap and carrying Rodgers salary. Strange money things have happened before in the NFL. The Texans carried Watson’s salary for an entire year never considered releasing him yet never played him once. You’re right it could get ugly, but Rodgers does t have a no trade clause. The Packers could ship him to Washington tomorrow for a conditional pick/s in ‘24 if Rodgers reports and plays. Then the ball would be in Rodgers’ court to put up and walk away from 58 million dollars or shut up and report.
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I didn't hear him say he only wants to play for the Jets. Rodgers is not a dumb guy, and is aware these deals can and frequently do go sideways. That is why he said he intends to play in '23 and intends to play for the Jets. I doubted he was ever going to walk away from 58+ million dollars in '23 for just showing up. Thus, the Packers could trade him to any QB needy team (Commanders, Falcons, Titans, etc.) with virtually no risk. Acquiring team gives the Packers conditional picks if they can convince Rodgers to show up. If they can't they're not out anything, nor are the Packers as Rodgers would be retired.
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When the 49ers moved on to Steve Young from Joe Montana he had 4 Super Bowl rings and 2 MVP trophies. Nobody really remembers that it caused a rift with Montana and ultimately resulted in him demanding a trade. It'll be no different with Rodgers. With the passing of time nobody will care about the "he said/she said" or that Rodgers spent a year or two in New York before calling it quits.
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Sure they do, now that Rodgers stated he intends to play in '23 they can trade him to whatever team they want for conditional picks if he shows up and plays. They ostensibly hold nearly all the cards.
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Yep, and all the players he mentioned were washed up when the Packers moved on: Nelson, Hawk, Matthews, Cobb. Brett Goode never got another contract after the Packers moved on. Peppers maybe wasn't completely washed up but went to being a situational pass rusher after leaving the Packers. What are the Packers supposed to do, offer counseling to these players on what life will be like after they're not good enough for the NFL anymore?
