Jopal78

At 25 years old, and that he’s seen time in 5 consecutive seasons, Urias in 2022 is likely at or near his ceiling. He’s an okay player and likely will stick at 3B until they find someone better but given the wealth of middle infielders the Brewers have drafted lately Urias could also be trade material.

At 25 years old, and that he’s seen time in 5 consecutive seasons, Urias in 2022 is likely at or near his ceiling. He’s an okay player and likely will stick at 3B until they find someone better but given the wealth of middle infielders the Brewers have drafted lately Urias could also be trade material.

First of all, the Brewers have access to the doctors treating Yelich and his medical records, fans don't. Second, the Brewers have access to Yelich in the off-season and could observe how he looks in whatever rehabilitation he had to do, running, hitting, etc., fans don't. Third, the Brewers coaching staff, doctors, and front office personnel saw him in spring training before he signed the extension, I think its logical to believe they were confident in Yelich's long-term health when he signed his extension and with nearly two hundred million dollars of the owner's money at stake, were simply not taking a guess that he'd be fully recovered from a knee cap fracture. As to any complaints about the timing of the extension given Yelich had years remaining on his contract when the extension was signed, keep in mind it takes two to tango. For all we know as fans, Yelich told the Brewers "it's now or never" on a contract extension. Who knows? I can tell you if Yelich had continued to crush as a Brewer and walked as a free agent, there would be a percentage of fans calling the GM an idiot for letting him walk that is equal to the percentage that are critical of the extension. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

If you trade Burnes or Woodruff there is no reason to keep anyone who is already in arbitration. Those player will not be part of the next good Brewers team; so in such a scenario they should also move on from : the other Burnes or Woodruff, Renfroe, Adames, Urias, Houser, Lauer, Caratini, Bush, and Gott.

My recollection is that Jaha was hurt all the time. Then, much like Cal Eldred, immediately after going to a new team he stayed healthy and was terrific, until injuries got him again.

So you've got 2-Caratini 3-Tellez 4-Urias 5- Free agent 6-Adames 7-Yelich 8- Rookie 9-Renfroe DH- Hiura How does that make the team better, unless they sign a proven all-star third basemen (which none project to even be free agents in 2023 and its even less likely the Brewers would sign a 20+ million dollar per year free agent anyways)? You're probably right that they will decline the option on Wong, and the other players on expiring contracts will walk as fee agents, but this is a 2nd rate lineup. I would sure hope they would mix it up more in actually trying to make their offense better. Moreover, if the Brewers trade Woodruff or Burnes it means they're not intending to compete in the immediate future which would in turn render Renfroe, Caratini (not to mention Matt Bush and Trevor Gott) surplusage and they should probably be jettisoned to in that type of scenario as well.

I don't know what to tell you, there's stats out there to say anything I guess. Look I get it, there's people that love Hiura, love the long ball and feel it's a sin that he's not in there every night. It might be old school to the sabremetricians, but there's not a single team in MLB that would roster a player who strikes out 40% of the time for very long especially when the player is a liability in the field too. That's all it is with Hiura: lack of defense and too many strikeouts = bench/AAA. No mis-use of Hiura, no edict from the owner to start the wealthiest players, I'm sure he's never said anything rude about the GM's wife, or done anything else where they're out to sabotage his career. Its simply lack of defense and too many strike outs.

1. Would be interesting to see what a arbitration hearing is like. If I was representing Hiura, I would argue that he's already got 1000 PAs in the major leagues since being drafted in June of '17, and the most homeruns of anyone drafted since. 2. I don't buy that argument all, its nonsense. Mayyyybe in April it had some merit; however, this is a team that is trying to win as many games as possible. They're going to play the collection of players they believe gives them the best chance to win regardless of the weight of the contracts. To wit, they've already eaten a ton of money this year in guaranteed salary to Lorenzo Cain, Dinelson Lamet, Jake McGee, etc. Most importantly, if you take a look at McCutchen's numbers, he got off to a terrible start, but since June 1st he's been terrific with a .280 average, .365 OBP, .478 SLG%. In other words, since June 1st there has been NO reason to play Hiura in front of McCutchen. Also its probably not a coincidence that when McCutchen started to hit in early June also coincided with the time period around which Hiura was again demoted to add a pitcher. 3. I don't know if having "hit all his life" means very much. All major league hitters, raked in high school and/or college and the minor leagues otherwise they wouldn't have made it in the first place. Really, its Hiura's lack of defensive ability and the strikeouts that are holding him back neither of which he's showed any ability to improve upon. To be sure, after nearly 1000 PAs in the major leagues, Hiura has had his "chance" to prove himself. In a way, Keston is fortunate he's with an uber patient organization like the Brewers as I'm sure there are teams who already would have cut bait.

I'm sure there are exceptions, but based on a quick glance at last year's list, hitters with as much experience as Hiura in their first year of arbitration did much better than 1 million or even 1.25 million. If Hiura does get tendered and goes through arbitration I would guess he will be closer to 2 million than 1 million. As for calling his "mis-use" nonsense, its certainly not to degrade other posters. Nobody honestly believes the Brewers are unaware of Hiura's splits, hit charts, etc. In fact, they have access to more player information than anyone on these boards. Therefore, there must be an intentional reason for playing him when they do and against whom. Like it or not, MLB teams simply do not roster players that strike out much more than 35% of the time. Hiura striking out at a 43% clip is the main reason he's the 24th, 25th or 26th man on the Brewers roster. Can he get that number down to 35% and still hit 30 homeruns, who knows (In my opinion its looking unlikely given the 1000 PAs he's had in the majors)? I do know with near certainty if he continues to strike out 40% of the time or more, his remaining career in the major leagues will be brief.

Hiura isn't going to be the DH for the Brewers in 2023 at a 1 million dollar salary. The league minimum next year is $720,000 and Hiura is arbitration eligible for the first time. He'd do better for himself going to the hearing than agreeing to that number and setting himself on such a low earnings trajectory. I have no problem playing Hiura against RHP, he's been hot. I don't buy any nonsense that he's been used incorrectly, they have given him plenty of chances and he hasn't been able to fix his strike out issues. That being said, he may as well be in there against every RHP while 30% of his hits are going over the fence. If nothing else, it would be fun seeing if he will get to 30 homeruns before he has 100 hits on the season, and if he can stay under the 200 strikeouts in the process.

We’ll see where he finishes. He’s likely to get 10 million dollars or more in arbitration next year and is a low average, low OBP slugger. Joc Pederson, for example, is playing on a 6 million dollar contract. Like in real estate Renfroe is sort of over priced next to comparable players. After all it is his relatively high price that partially accounts for why he’s in Milwaukee to begin with

Agreed, Renfroe is a one and done and will most likely be non-tendered in the off-season as they try to get away from the all or nothing hitters they e collected

That’s the funny thing about prospects. Obviously the prospect pundits weren’t as impressed with Gasser, but the Brewers GM stated they had hoped to draft Gasser in the first place and believed he was one of the best pitching prospects in the minor leagues. Maybe the Brewers could have had MacKenzie Gore instead, and went with Gasser due to liking Gasser more, the current composition of their major league roster, health concerns etc. We’ll never know, but given the GM’s own comments I wouldn’t write the players off as second rate. Only time can tell that.

There may be some truth to that, but also don’t forget AJ Preller is under a great deal of pressure to deliver a playoff heavy weight. He’s been there the better part of a decade and other than 2020 his teams have sucked. It’s equally likely that Preller is desperate to have a team that can go toe to toe with the Dodgers, so he made some risky moves because he has nothing to lose (If the Padres can’t advance in the playoffs this year he likely gets canned anyways) .

Exactly! Scouts likely share info with journalists such as a players breaking pitches are major league caliber or another player’s swing is too long. Scouts would not share “I think player A is the best one they have followed closely by Player B and then C.”

Scouts don’t put together prospect ranking. Those are made by journalists and website content creators.

I guess it depends what you want. If it’s homers and not much else, than Taylor’s your guy. They’re in first place so it’s hard to argue against success. But if the team has a weakness offensively it is when they fail to Homer they typically don’t score often. Therefore more all-around hitters probably make the roster better. More importantly, the Brewers are thin in CF, with a journeyman veteran currently splitting time. If the goal is to add as much talent and depth to the roster in a playoff push. Laureano makes a lot of sense and that he’s not an impending free agent makes the cost more justifiable.

I guess it depends what you want. If it’s homers and not much else, than Taylor’s your guy. They’re in first place so it’s hard to argue against success. But if the team has a weakness offensively it is when they fail to Homer they typically don’t score often. Therefore more all-around hitters probably make the roster better. More importantly, the Brewers are thin in CF, with a journeyman veteran currently splitting time. If the goal is to add as much talent and depth to the roster in a playoff push. Laureano makes a lot of sense and that he’s not an impending free agent makes the cost more justifiable.

Bell is the best rental hitter available. In a perfect world they’d also get a CF, Tyrone Taylor is just a guy, He cranks just enough homers to make you forget he’s hitting .230

Bell is the best rental hitter available. In a perfect world they’d also get a CF, Tyrone Taylor is just a guy, He cranks just enough homers to make you forget he’s hitting .230

I get it; you’re okay wasting generational pitching talent while hoping some minor leaguers develop two to three years from now. I trust the front office isn’t going to mortgage their future to win now; it hasn’t been their M.O. but I hope they bring on as much talent as they can this year and Laureano is without doubt better than anyone the Brewers have lined up in CF this year.

I get it; you’re okay wasting generational pitching talent while hoping some minor leaguers develop two to three years from now. I trust the front office isn’t going to mortgage their future to win now; it hasn’t been their M.O. but I hope they bring on as much talent as they can this year and Laureano is without doubt better than anyone the Brewers have lined up in CF this year.

I guess, I’d like to see them finish first in a winnable NL Central this year, but lack of offensive production from CF is a problem and Acuna and Judge aren’t available. Sometimes a team has to seize and opportunity

I guess, I’d like to see them finish first in a winnable NL Central this year, but lack of offensive production from CF is a problem and Acuna and Judge aren’t available. Sometimes a team has to seize and opportunity

Laureano is a plus defender, plays CF, isn’t a total chump with the bat, and he’s under team control for two more years. It’s better than shopping for a bargain basement band aid again this off season and a clear upgrade over Tyrone Taylor and Jonathan Davis. What’s not to like? Man, sometimes I think posters here would spit on the Brewers acquiring anyone short of Ohtani or Trout, and even if they got those two guys they’d still grumble that it cost Turang, Frelick and Hiura.