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If that is true, then the people with Roku TVs will not be happy... At least you can still plug something into an HDMI port. I don't think Roku charging for app downloads is something that will happen anytime soon but that's the direction it seems to be heading. It's all about the percentage of money Roku receives from customers that sign up for a subscription directly through the Roku app. That percentage is money Google agrees to pay Roku for those exact transactions, point being that Google is gaining a paying customer directly due to Roku making that app available. Roku can demand a fee for that and it's a huge factor in how they make money. Which is absolutely fair, it's just the comments they're making to the public are attempting to deflect blame from themselves and onto Google when they in fact actually do share the blame and are behaving heavily in their own self-interest. I don't expect this stalemate to last long but what do I know, I didn't think it would get this far either. It's just depressing that the same old cable model tactics are now rearing its head in the streaming world. Guess that shouldn't be a surprise either.

Our commitment is to always put your interests first This is 100% about Roku's self interest, this is the same argument cable companies use when they are in dispute with a particular network or channel, except with the cable model they actually pass the cost along to the consumer. The Roku streaming device model doesn't work that way. This is Roku's hint that at some point in the future they will charge customers a fee to download apps on Roku devices.

Hey, how 'bout those Brewers!

Hey, how 'bout those Brewers!

And the hits just keep on coming. Sigh.

99% Sure the exact same line was said by fans 13 years ago, and here we are. ESPN is reporting that the Packers have offered to extend Rodgers' contract. This stuff does not compute. Either that's not true, or Rodgers wants out and is falsely claiming 'lack of commitment'. I saw a Twitter post that went along the lines of, well I'll let the tweet do the talking: Ian Rapoport @RapSheet Over the last month, Aaron Rodgers had his agent Dave Dunn fly out to Green Bay for several days of meetings to work through the situation. Rodgers refused a restructure. Wanted an extension. Teams called knowing he wasn’t happy. GB rebuffed them. Offered an extension. No deal. This seems more believable. Of course still hearsay.

I don't have an issue with either side. He wanted more say-so in things, they didn't do it. Lots of big names get say-so these days. Nothing wrong if he wants to have that, nothing wrong with the Packers saying no. Sometimes it's best for both parties to move on. But he does know that if they trade him right now that it is the definition of the worst time and that is very on purpose, no? According to this if the Packers wait until after June they will actually save approx. $15 million this season and the dead cap for next season would only be $17 million, as opposed to the $38 million it would cost if they trade him before June. So yeah, maybe this is just a negotiating tactic or maybe he's trying to force their hand so they adhere to his schedule instead of theirs. Which feels petty. That's all. I'm not against him moving on at all, I understand it. Clearly we don't know everything about this situation and how it's evolved since the end of last season, the Packers do have their share of blame as well and I'm not discounting that.

LOL what a child. That said, I've always supported the player having a say in where he plays or doesn't play and I stand by that. But isn't the cap hit astronomical if they trade him this season? It makes no sense unless all he's trying to do is cause the Packers the most pain he possibly can which let's be honest feels right in line with his character. I'm just curious what the Packers options are and how it would affect their cap this season? Clearly trading him next season is much more ideal. Is the cap hit lessened this season if he's traded after June 1st or something like that?

Can't forget about the Cenex dipstick commercials. That is a solid point. Even if the ratings are in a certain range that doesn't mean advertisers are chomping at the bit to give them their money.

This is good, cause I have already said and agreed with this a dozen times I will stop typing because clearly people aren't reading. Yeah I'm sorry I said that, not because of your reply but it was over the top and I apologize for saying it (and I edited it in my post). But I'm glad we agree it was dumb, I know you said it was too but I don't think it's justified like you do and that, as you knew, was my point.

I'm going off of what you and one or two other defenders have posted and I still don't see anything convincing enough to defend that bureaucratic interpretation of the rule. It's worth noting that outside of Marty Foster and the Miami Marlins, I haven't seen anyone else in the baseball world online trying to defend the call as being correct. Diaz was on the grass, dogging it to first, and was clearly out via force at 1B before Marty decided he wanted the spotlight. A little common sense can go a very long way. If that is the type of call MLB can defend as a correct interpretation of a rule, than maybe this league just deserves to lose fans. Because who is going to think about it that in depth? Even JomBoy, about the only person that breaks down a play intently, was completely wrong in his analysis. He thinks Diaz stepped over towards Godley in the grass to draw the interference. That is just flat out wrong. Diaz started in the grass and was in the grass the entire time. Most people are going to stop before the rule even needs to be mentioned because it was a ridiculously unnecessary call. Right or wrong, the call is still beyond dumb to make. As I have said many times, sometimes you just don't need to make a call...and that was definitely one of those times. I am sure every other umpire in baseball watched that play afterwards and was like, "What an idiot, I would never call that." I guess I'm not seeing any progress if you're trying to convince people the call makes sense. It was a stupid and incredibly unnecessary call even if it might loosely come close to the letter of the rule. Even then the timing is so incredibly close to occurring simultaneously with Vogelbach stepping on the bag that it just makes it look absurd. It was dumb and it's not going to stop being dumb.

Exactly, it might be a bit annoying but I'd rather be watching than not. I actually did try out the Bally's app for a little bit the other day and it felt like the picture quality wasn't quite as good as what I get with AT&T TV. I'm not sure if that was just a momentary thing or what but I went back to AT&T TV the picture looks pretty good there.

It was a garbage call and there's really no defending it. Every replay I see they show Godley with the ball and the runner isn't even in the frame yet. Can a runner just stand at home plate and "line up" so that a player is between him and first base so he can get an obstruction call even if he's 60 feet away? Because that's what this felt like. Also all the Marlins defending the call is hilarious. To me it looks like this is something I could see as being coached into them by Mattingly, meaning running in the grass on a play that's down the line just in case a situation like this might happen. Ultimately it's like any other bad call, you have to play through it to get yourself out of it and the Brewers didn't.

A weird part of me would much rather he be beaten by the best team in the league than pitch and lose to the worst team. There's every reason to expect this team to lose to the Dodgers even with really good pitching. Anyway, if they're going to give Lauer a start it's time to put on his big boy pants and pitch, it shouldn't matter which team he faces.

Can we assume from this statement that the $85M represents their annual cost? If so, I guess that if the Marlins get $50M a year from their TV deal, than we are getting $35M a year from our deal. I haven't seen anything that listed the Brewers deal details. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/04/latest-on-marlins-local-television-deal.html#:~:text=In%20late%20March%2C%20the%20Marlins,just%20over%20%2450MM%20annually. In late March, the Marlins and Sinclair Broadcast Group announced a multi-year local television rights contract. The specific terms and length of the agreement weren’t disclosed at the time, but Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald now reports it’s a seven-year deal that pays just over $50MM annually. That would be frustrating if the Brewers were paid that much less than the Marlins. It would still represent a gain of about $15 million per season for the Brewers though, up from a reported $20 million per season on their previous deal. Still, the Marlins had been the lowest earner on their previous RSN contract and now they jump to $50 million? Makes me wonder how the Brewers only got $35 million per if that is indeed what it ends up being. The Brewers ranked seventh in the league last year in local ratings despite being the smallest media market in MLB. I wonder if that's just a ratings average rather than a raw total of eyeballs that tune in to watch, I'm not sure how that works and if the numbers can be misrepresented to a point where 7th overall doesn't really count for much. https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/milwaukee-brewers-local-tv-rights-2021-fox-sports-sinclair-bally-rsn

To add to this, I'd say Roku users shouldn't worry too much about this, Roku and Google are playing their game of chicken but Roku will cave, they're not going to want to lose market share to other streaming devices and YouTube TV is too big of an app for them to risk not being able to offer their user base. I can't imagine Roku would risk losing app support for longer than a day or two and I really don't expect it will even get to that point. This is also a reason to be somewhat diverse in the use of streaming devices in your home. They're fairly cheap, having an Amazon Fire TV Stick or Chromecast with Google TV as a backup shouldn't hurt your wallet that much. I'm not saying you should have a backup for every tv in your home but at least one extra device will cover you in a pinch if something like this happens from time to time. As far as time delay on AT&T TV there definitely is one and I've noticed it more than once when following along in IGTs. It is still annoying enough where I wouldn't consider that a better alternative to the Bally's app, if the delay bothers you there it will still bother you using AT&T TV.

What we really need is a "who's doing good" thread. Because it's 3 guys tops right now. Narvaez, Wong and Taylor. Maybe McKinney but a lot of him looking good is everyone else looking bad. Singling out Garcia and Hiura is fun for everyone I suppose but just about everybody is on the struggle bus right about now. Cain and Yelich can't return soon enough, then we can complain about them too.

Glad we haven't seen a lot of lefty starters if this is the lineup they have to put out there. This team needs some bats that work. I have no doubt the bad offense has an effect on the pitching needing to be near perfect.

Don't tease us Manny, channel The Pineapple.

Is Urias going to evolve into a dependable thrower? Gotta get a slow Aguilar at home on that play.

Burnes is eventually going to walk someone, I'm rooting hard for him to get the record but if he falls short can't take anything away from how dominant he's been. Add that everyone is hyper focused on this record chase I almost feel it will be a small relief for Burnes once it's over. Heck maybe I'm wrong and it's helping him focus.

[sarcasm]So at what point do we immediately go to the suicide squeeze with a runner on 3rd and nobody out?[/sarcasm]

Nice having an effective lead off bat, Wong doing well.

Ahh, I'll trust you guys on it. I feel if CC was going to send a message to Avi he'd have pulled him from that game, unless it was too late to make a difference.

What did I miss with Garcia that would require a benching? Only saw bits and pieces of the game yesterday. Checked the game thread from yesterday, did he not tag up and advance on a fly ball or something?