Bulldogboy

What do you mean? You think playing players who are not the best players to help you win is a problem? Hmm.

You wonder what Yelich thinks when watching the Arcia of the world hit. He has to from time to time think dude you just have to watch the ball and hit it.

Please tell me more about how poorly run this organization is? And what's this "prioritize personal relationships" nonsense? They simply didn't want to give up on a guy who's been one of the most productive 3rd basemen in the game the last couple years after a bad couple months. There's isn't much to get other than he's been really-really good, now he's struggling and they're hoping he bounces back. They've got Hirura ready to go whenever they want to bring him back. Someone help me out, does Shaw still have an option remaining? If so, that's the solution. If not, then..opps, that wrist is bothering him again(and it may actually be, you seldom seem hitters drop off this much). He has an option and they should have used it weeks ago. Period.

It is a shame that this team has prioritized personal relationships over winning. There is no way to justify keeping Shaw in the bigs. You are doing him and the fanbase a disservice. The guy doesn't want to suck so why keep running him out there to be horrible? I don't get it at all.

Two big strikeouts there.

Nothing to see here folks. All is well. This team is fine. We don't need pitching. Etc..

I'm not feeling confident about that at all. Me either. Reds can swing it and Nelson doesn't seem to have his feet on the ground yet.

Just because we opened the season with 3 starting pitchers didn't necessarily mean our rotation was permanently set with those 3 SP. Nelson was due back, and there were FA available along with trades. Plenty of ways to add SP. And opening with 3 rookie SP allowed us to find a gem in Woodruff, who might be better than most arms we could potentially trade for. Also you can look and see that Nelson/Chacin have been just as bad as Peralta/Burnes as SP...while Woodruff is arguably the best SP on the staff this year. The SP has not been as good as we'd like it to be, but pointing at the 3 rookies as the reason is ridiculous. My point is most organizations that are in a win now mode do not trust 3/5 of the rotation to rookies. Far from blue chip rookies at that. I am not saying this season is on them just that it was an unusual move for an organization that was one game from the world series. I don't think it's ever been done. It was a risk at the time and it blew up on them. The season is far from over but we are no closer to solving this issue going forward.

I agree. The Rodgers situation is a great point in not letting a Yelich type talent go for naught. Bucks in the same window with Giannis. These players come around so rarely and in markets like our even more so. You have to look at these situations in my view as all in. How do you go all in starting the season with three rookie starters? In my view this told you this was in part a developmental year. Then they sign Moose and Grandal. I am not sure how they feel but the frustration is real. I find this completely ridiculous. The Brewers are a team that has to get production from young players, we can't go sign Lester or Scherzer or whoever else and hope they pan out. I'm sure the FO found it likely that not all 3 would meet expectations and be mainstays in the rotation. But from throwing 3 against the wall as we did, we found one ready to go in Woodruff...and he's arguably our best starter right now. To say starting 3 rookie starters means it's a developmental year is just crazy. We opened the season that way, but obviously we were able to adapt as 2 didn't work out in the rotation at this moment...you're seeing the contingency plan of 2 of those 3 guys not working out in the rotation. It hasn't been ideal, but our SP is keeping us in games for the most part...and that should be good enough most of the time with this team. Name the last team to make the playoffs with 3 rookie starting pitchers. If this was a all in year this would not have been the case especially considering you let cheap options like Miley and Gio get away. Not to mention letting Kuechel sit it out. As for starting pitching keeping us in games 29th in quality starts means this is not accurate. Average outing of 4.9 innings also says this is false.

I agree. The Rodgers situation is a great point in not letting a Yelich type talent go for naught. Bucks in the same window with Giannis. These players come around so rarely and in markets like our even more so. You have to look at these situations in my view as all in. How do you go all in starting the season with three rookie starters? In my view this told you this was in part a developmental year. Then they sign Moose and Grandal. I am not sure how they feel but the frustration is real. I find this completely ridiculous. The Brewers are a team that has to get production from young players, we can't go sign Lester or Scherzer or whoever else and hope they pan out. I'm sure the FO found it likely that not all 3 would meet expectations and be mainstays in the rotation. But from throwing 3 against the wall as we did, we found one ready to go in Woodruff...and he's arguably our best starter right now. To say starting 3 rookie starters means it's a developmental year is just crazy. We opened the season that way, but obviously we were able to adapt as 2 didn't work out in the rotation at this moment...you're seeing the contingency plan of 2 of those 3 guys not working out in the rotation. It hasn't been ideal, but our SP is keeping us in games for the most part...and that should be good enough most of the time with this team. Name the last team to make the playoffs with 3 rookie starting pitchers. If this was a all in year this would not have been the case especially considering you let cheap options like Miley and Gio get away. Not to mention letting Kuechel sit it out. As for starting pitching keeping us in games 29th in quality starts means this is not accurate. Average outing of 4.9 innings also says this is false.

I agree. The Rodgers situation is a great point in not letting a Yelich type talent go for naught. Bucks in the same window with Giannis. These players come around so rarely and in markets like our even more so. You have to look at these situations in my view as all in. How do you go all in starting the season with three rookie starters? In my view this told you this was in part a developmental year. Then they sign Moose and Grandal. I am not sure how they feel but the frustration is real.

In most of the conversations during the games it boils down to two camps. Those like myself who feel this team despite being in first place are underachieving and those who think things are fine after all they are in first place. I believe both have valid points but the big question is what is the goal of this year's team? Is it to just be competitive and maybe make the playoffs or is it to repeat as division winners and get to the world series. If the goal is the latter I think there is no way to feel good about that goal with what we have seen to this point. Personel decisions and the lack of pitching make this goal as it stands hard to fathom. If it's the former then you can see the glass half full and be correct. I had high hopes that bringing back everybody from last year and adding Grandal this team would be better but it isn't. The pitching decisions in spring training were the first warning signs that this team was not of that mindset. It's been a struggle since. Just wondering what is everyone's here goal? What would be a successful season? Is it to try and win it all this year or just win the wildcard? No guarantee that Moose or Grandal will be back. No guarantee Yelich will be Mickey Mantle next year. No guarantee that Cain will be better another year older. Don't you have to push for winning now if possible? I think so. I think the window for this team is not as big as some would suggest and the league as a whole has many teams positioned for a good run at it. The league is down except for the Dodgers and you took them to the 5th inning of game 7. They appear to be better. Shouldn't we expect the same?

Guys like Perez are great playing once a week. The more you see him playing every day the more you realize he's not very good. Great guy to have until he has to play.

It’s not. It’s just expecting something and not seeing it happen. Many had way too high of expectations and it’s ruining a time in Brewers history for them. Maybe some re-runs of the early 2000’s would help during rain delays or something. I don't think this is accurate. Burnes, Peralta and Chacin weren't expected to pitch to sub 3 ERA but certainly weren't expected 8.69, 5.54 and 5.60 ERA. Shaw and Aguilar should have been expected to hit 25-30 HR given their past two seasons. No one expected this drop off. There have been no answers and let's not start talking about the bullpen. Put simply, this team isn't even meeting averages let alone expectations. Accurate. Yelich is the best player in baseball and you added a stud catcher and you aren't as good.

It’s not. It’s just expecting something and not seeing it happen. Many had way too high of expectations and it’s ruining a time in Brewers history for them. Maybe some re-runs of the early 2000’s would help during rain delays or something. I keep hearing people say yeah but we used to be so much worse in the old days. We are 5 games over 500 celebrate and enjoy. You be excited. You wonder why this organization has 3 division titles in 40 years. The fans are cool with being competitive.

I am referring to this trip for the most part. However run difference tells a more accurate story and I don't believe this team is as good as it's record. The reality is the NL isn't very good overall so teams like the Brewers should be able to carve out a record a few games over 500. The arrow is not pointing up for this team until reinforcements arrive.

This I don’t understand why you guys watch with this type of attitude. I get being upset that they’re losing to some extent but I don’t quite get how watching baseball isn’t enjoyable. Why would watching bad baseball be enjoyable? Especially if you go to the park and shell out 250 bucks. If you are on this board you love baseball. Don't think that means you have to love bad baseball and can't call it out.

First pitch swinging Travis Shaw pops up. I mean Chris Davis

This

This team isn't good. Period.

A team searching for starting pitching should give Houser a shot. The guy looks great.

If they can keep one I'll be thrilled. I can't imagine they'll be able to keep both. Moose is going to be looking for that 4 year 70 million dollar deal he's been looking for the last couple offseasons, only this time he's going to get it from someone. Can they afford to keep both? Of course. Will they nope. Two different things. I vote Grandal.

Looks at box score. Shocked that only hits are from top 3 lineup. Imagine that.

This lineup is rough after Grandal. Even back to the top with Cain. How can you score enough runs with three dangerous bats? Man. Aguillar not starting again but he's not expendable?

Having to play Shaw against a lefty is basically another automatic out along with the pitcher. Tack on the Pina and Arcia struggling again this looks like another 0-1 run outing.