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Trade: Yelich > 2(60) & 1(55) grade prospects Hader > 1(60) & 2(55) grade prospects Davies > 1(55) grade prospect That’s 3 Studs & 4 mini-studs (7 top 100 type prospects) to add to the farm to make it the top in all of baseball. Sign Grisham and Hiura to 8 year extension’s to build around as far as position players go. Put Burnes Peralta Houser and Supak in the rotation all year and just let em pitch. By the end of the year we might have another TOR or two to join Woodruff. Bullpen should be one of the best in baseball with the 4 headed monster of Knebel Wahl D. Williams Black. Of the 7 stud prospects received, should be a few of em ready to plug into the lineup to make it strong by 2021. And with a low payroll should be able to add a free agent or two to really compete for a title starting in 2021, but this time with a super young core controlled for 5-7 years.

Splitterless, commandless Guerra terrible. Why Counsell doesn’t see what everyone else see’s is really mind boggling.

Get ahead of the curve mr. Stearns and sign Hiura and Grisham to 8 year extensions, before it gets really expensive.

1.) Trent Grisham > he and Hiura will give the crew 2 young superstar hitters for years to come. Hoping Stearns extends them both for 8 years. 2.) Clayton Andrews > so small, he’s gonna stupify lots of big league hitters on the mound with his unique slot. Then hit well enough to play the outfield and become a real weapon late in games. 3.) Drew Rasmussen > I’d like to see him start next year to see if we have another Woodruff, but 100 mph heat with a plus slider late in games would work too. 4.) Ethan Small > love his pitchability, and if he regains the velocity he had prior to TJ, look out. 5.) Antoine Kelly > not sure how he fell to the brewers but don’t care, imo, this guy could be one of the steals of the draft. 6.) Aaron Ashby > bloodline matters, plus lefty deception should keep him at least a mid-rotation arm or better. 7.) Trey Supak > might be underrating him here, but another 4 pitch good command pitchability pitcher that has a probable chip on his shoulder. 8.) Brice Turang > bloodlines, speed, hand eye, seems to be elite, hoping the power comes just a little bit as he gets older, but, a speedy leadoff hitter’s ok too. 9.) Devin Williams > another potential elite late inning pen arm. 10.) Bobby Wahl > another potential elite late inning pen arm. 11.) Angel Perdomo > another potential elite late inning pen arm. 12.) Dylan File 13.) Max Lazar 14.) Alec Bettinger 15.) Zack Brown 16.) Mario Feliciano 17.) Tristen Lutz 18.) Felix Velerio 19.) Luis Medina 20.) Eduardo Garcia 21.) Nick Bennett 22.) David Hamilton 23.) Gabe Holt 24.) Joey Matulovich 25.) Micah Bello 26.) Corey Ray That’s 13 pitchers in my top 15.

Yep. And while we didn't draft Zavolas, but he's looking pretty good too. Most of these guys are performing at the A+ level or lower, but the sheer volume of guys performing well should mean a few of them can sustain it and become quality MLB pitchers. Unfortunately they are all 2+ years away. Other than Turang and our catchers (and Grisham and Hiura) we have no position players who look to contribute at the same time though. We'll need to hit on a couple of Hiura like college bats in the next couple of drafts and then fill in from there with FAs and Shaw/Aguilar/Thames kinds of acquisitions. Totally agree. Position prospects should probably rank 30th. But pitching is another story, imo, I’d rank our pitching somewhere in the top 5-10 of all teams. Pitchability is rampant in the brewers farm, numerous pitchers with deception, 4 pitch mix, good offspeed etc. underrated to say the least.

Was that really necessary? Of course it’s an opinion. And everyone knows it’s my opinion except you apparently. I think he's trying to suggest a softer tone to your posts. Whether you mean to or not, the assertive nature of your posts comes off as patronizing and combative. When you phrase opinions as fact, it sounds like you're telling people that they are wrong and that there isn't room for discussion, so there's naturally some push back from those reading what are often otherwise reasonable and welcomed opinions. Ok, thanks, I appreciate the feedback.

Was that really necessary? Of course it’s an opinion. And everyone knows it’s my opinion except you apparently.

It usually doesn't click when you're 30 though. Yes true, but he’s been a decent hitter, it’s just the last 2 years he’s kicked it up, and when your K% is only 14.7 that is ELITE enough to translate. As Briggs pointed out he’s hitting almost .500 vs Lefty’s. I mean come on!

Agree and disagree. Team just needs to be within striking distance come September. The brewers run will be in September, when the rosters expand and Woodruff is back. Grisham and Freitas And Yelich And Hiura will lead the offense and Woodruff the rotation. The bullpen should be potentially monstrous with Nelson Suter Houser Peralta Faria Devin Black Hader Pomeranz. Imo, the brewers should win the central, unless, Stearns continues with roster mismanagement and Counsell keeps making terrible decisions with the pitching staff. September expansion of the roster should Stearns/Counsell proof the team enough to squeak by.

Imo, Stearns chronic miss management of the roster has cost this team wins this year. WHY IS DAVID FREITAS NOT UP AND PLAYING? WHY? As Briggs has pointed out already, Freitas is destroying LHP. He’s destroying all pitching, and has been all year > .376 .454 His stats not inflated like so many others in AAA because of the juiced ball because he’s NOT a home run hitter, which makes his stats even more impressive than other PCL’er’s. K% > 14.7. BB% > 12.3. That’s Grisham level plate discipline, just what this team needs, especially vs LHP. I would have traded Grandal at the deadline for a lottery ticket just to get his bat into this lineup. Those have been his ratios basically up-and-down in the minors and yet whenever he gets to the pros he does nothing. Barely 100 ab’s, not enough. Look at Grisham, prior to this year‘s explosion one would think the same thing about him, sometimes IT JUST CLICKS > MAX MUNCY.

Imo, Stearns chronic miss management of the roster has cost this team wins this year. WHY IS DAVID FREITAS NOT UP AND PLAYING? WHY? As Briggs has pointed out already, Freitas is destroying LHP. He’s destroying all pitching, and has been all year > .376 .454 His stats not inflated like so many others in AAA because of the juiced ball because he’s NOT a home run hitter, which makes his stats even more impressive than other PCL’er’s. K% > 14.7. BB% > 12.3. That’s Grisham level plate discipline, just what this team needs, especially vs LHP. I would have traded Grandal at the deadline for a lottery ticket just to get his bat into this lineup.

This Ownership? This front Office? This ownership will probably not change in most of our lifetimes, at least according to Mark A, saying he wants his son to run the team at some point. But, with the way teams value’s keep skyrocketing upward, it might get to the point where it makes too much sense to sell. Some, or maybe it’s most people on this site think that I hate Attanasio, by my posts with regards to imo, chronically low payrolls. I do understand he has limited partners or investors he needs to answer to, and based upon history, a minimum profit that needs to be realized every year. Back in 16 during the short rebuild, when the brewers had the lowest payroll in baseball, he made the statement, now I’m paraphrasing, we’re banking money that can be used for payroll when we’re in serious contention. In 16 & 17 with the crew’s lowest payroll or one of the lowest, saved 70-125 million, which was used not for payroll but for capital improvements. Ok, it’s good for the long term health of the team, so I’ve changed my thinking to conclude I was wrong to think that $ should have been used for payroll now, because the rebuild was too fast to save enough for payroll, AFTER the Capital improvements. So just the fact attanasio said he’d bank $ to be used for future payroll gives me hope that this will happen in the future. Now the front office. Stearns mantra to have an abundance of controllable assets, has not been realized nor will it imo, without a payroll tank of enough length of time to accomplish 2 things each of equal importance: 1.) bank a minimum of 150-200 million to be used for a 3-4 period to add 50 million per year to payroll. 1.) sell off enough talent to accumulate an ABUNDANCE of IMPACTFUL controllable assets. Imo, we can’t do Stearns mantra with a max payroll 70-100 less than more talented teams. The front office might be smart, but not that smart. It’s not logical to assume that one front office can outsmart 30 other front offices, most of which are run by Ivy League educated men just as smart as Stearns, and most of which also have more resources than we do. Front offices in baseball aren’t run by the Dean Taylor‘s And Sal Bando’s of the world anymore. I could be wrong, I hope I am actually, because I don’t think Stearns is going to tank. We’ll see what happens.

Hader & Aguilar > Liberatore LHP & Honeywell RHP & Baz RHP & Lowe 1B

Why would it be nothing? What do you think? You think we are going to get a guy that can help us now. I will guarantee you it won’t be. Hader & Aguilar > Liberatore & Lowe & Honeywell & Baz

Why would it be nothing?

That’s one way to get Freitas up. Do the have any decent pitching? Do the still have Je Man Choi (I doubt I spelled that correctly)?

Do the have any decent pitching? Do the still have Je Man Choi (I doubt I spelled that correctly)? Yes, they have top 3 farm. Wow, would that be a gift trade.

And if you didn't make your suggested moves, what would your estimated win totals be with Yelich, Hader, etc.? I don’t know, depends on the payroll. 2020 > 130 million > 87 150 million > 91 170. > 95 2021 > 140 > 88 > 160 > 92 > 180 > 97 Unfortunately the payroll won’t get High enough to get to 90 wins.

The reds hitting has underperformed all year, this is the real reds offense, finally coming alive.

The Brewers very quickly become the Marlins and the laughing stock of all baseball. Losing 105-110 games for 2-4 years in a row won't gain many fans. Your 5 year window is really 2 years because you would want to trade any valuable player for future prospects if they didn't win it all in back-to-back years. It’s a 2 year tank. But with Hiura Grisham Burnes Peralta Houser among others it’s not a real tank. It’s a young, competitive team, that with The tremendous amount of young talent added by the trading of Yelich & etc. and Stearns wizardry could contend a year early 2021 but for sure in 22. If I had to predict a record > 2020 > 75 wins. 21 > 81+

I’ll look for it, thought it in the Biloxi thread

I thought it was on this site, if I find it I’ll let you know.

Brewer payroll last 5 years: 2019 > 126 Reds > 127 2018 > 90 2017 > 69 2016 > 62 2015 > 94

Is this one of those things you have no evidence of to support your claims and just hope everyone doesn’t challenge you on your post? Some teams will tank to compete (has nothing to do with saving money for competing years) and some will continue to make smart acquisitions and build teams that are in and out of competing. 2 tanks both larger markets: Cubbies tanked for 3+ years 2011-2014 2015 payroll > 132 million 2016 payroll > 186 million > World Series Winners Astros tanked for 6 years 2009-2014 2016 payroll > 95 million 2017 payroll > 139 million > World Series Winners Didn’t win the title till payroll went up, and both have much more revenue than MKE. So how do we get the talent, then when we have the talent, bump the payroll to sign free agent or two to win the title if we’re not large market like the cubbies and Astros?

What if those prospects don't work out?? Then what?? With a 200 million payroll it’ll work out.