I don't think anyone is saying that players aren't part of the problem here. My biggest gripe with RR, and this was true when we went to the NLCS too, is that I believe he often times makes it MORE difficult for the players to succeed. The best a manager can do, with any players, is to play to their strengths, put them and the team in the best position to succeed. And IMO, he consistently fails to do this. Be it not giving Weeks a single day off during his struggles, making pitching changes that make little to no sense, starting Kotsay in CF in the NLCS. These things were being said even when we were winning, we were just winning despite his numerous gaffes, that often times led me to say we won DESPITE him, not BECAUSE of anything that he did.