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  1. Just a preemptive reminder. This isn't a thread to rehash the Hader deal. There's several others for that. Can we please keep this about the 2022 MLB Postseason? Thank you.
  2. Hader shuts the door on the Phillies in the 9th to even the series. Fans who booed him incessantly a couple months ago now seem to love him.
  3. Of course, the future will always be uncertain. But looking at the last three years, particularly with respect to xFIP and SIERA is as good as it gets in being able to predict it for pitchers.
  4. Of course, the future will always be uncertain. But looking at the last three years, particularly with respect to xFIP and SIERA is as good as it gets in being able to predict it for pitchers.
  5. And which stat did I cherry pick, exactly, "Mr. I literally signed up today and am going to start calling people names"? These are as fundamental as it gets for pitching. I guess I could've included SIERA, but it wouldn't make a difference.
  6. And which stat did I cherry pick, exactly, "Mr. I literally signed up today and am going to start calling people names"? These are as fundamental as it gets for pitching. I guess I could've included SIERA, but it wouldn't make a difference.
  7. Off the top of my head, I would trade him for: Julio Rodriguez, Ronald Acuna, Yordan Alvarez, and Adley Rutschman. But that's about it. Probably not even for Mike Trout, which is crazy.
  8. I'm not saying they're not elite starting pitchers or an elite top of the rotation. I'm just saying that they don't quite match up to those teams, which is validated by the statistical comparison below. Since 2020: Burnes and Woodruff: 822.1 IP, 2.72 ERA, 2.70 FIP, 2.86 xFIP, 31.85 K%, 25.55 K-BB% 24.6 fWAR Wheeler and Nola: 894.1 IP, 3.31 ERA, 2.89 FIP, 3.04 xFIP, 28.25 K%, 23.05 K-BB%, 25.9 fWAR DeGrom and Scherzer: 616.1 IP, 2.33 ERA, 2.37 FIP, 2.56 xFIP, 37.35 K%, 32.4 K-BB% 21.3 fWAR Urias and Kershaw: 716 IP, 2.72 ERA, 3.17 FIP, 3.40 xFIP, 26.5 K%, 21.45 K-BB%, 17.9 fWAR
  9. I'm not saying they're not elite starting pitchers or an elite top of the rotation. I'm just saying that they don't quite match up to those teams, which is validated by the statistical comparison below. Since 2020: Burnes and Woodruff: 822.1 IP, 2.72 ERA, 2.70 FIP, 2.86 xFIP, 31.85 K%, 25.55 K-BB% 24.6 fWAR Wheeler and Nola: 894.1 IP, 3.31 ERA, 2.89 FIP, 3.04 xFIP, 28.25 K%, 23.05 K-BB%, 25.9 fWAR DeGrom and Scherzer: 616.1 IP, 2.33 ERA, 2.37 FIP, 2.56 xFIP, 37.35 K%, 32.4 K-BB% 21.3 fWAR Urias and Kershaw: 716 IP, 2.72 ERA, 3.17 FIP, 3.40 xFIP, 26.5 K%, 21.45 K-BB%, 17.9 fWAR
  10. Yes, But these rosters are completely different. Our strength right now is by far our starting pitching. Take that away and we have little else to fall back on ATM. A Burnes/Woodruff trade, in which you eat away at our major strength, wouldn't win us more games this year without major outside additions, which is a huge ask with our limited resources.
  11. Yes, But these rosters are completely different. Our strength right now is by far our starting pitching. Take that away and we have little else to fall back on ATM. A Burnes/Woodruff trade, in which you eat away at our major strength, wouldn't win us more games this year without major outside additions, which is a huge ask with our limited resources.
  12. I was talking about the last three years. You don't become among the best in the game based on one season.
  13. I was talking about the last three years. You don't become among the best in the game based on one season.
  14. Not even the Dodgers. They have Urias, who doesn't quite have the rate stats of Burnes and Woodruff, and Gonsolin, who doesn't have the rate stats nor the innings.
  15. Not even the Dodgers. They have Urias, who doesn't quite have the rate stats of Burnes and Woodruff, and Gonsolin, who doesn't have the rate stats nor the innings.
  16. Burnes has been the best starter in baseball since 2020. No one has numbers across the board as good as him and over as many innings as him in that time frame. He's in the "bucket of buckets" with DeGrom (when healthy) and probably Scherzer. Woodruff is in the "bucket" after that, and even then there's only 5-8 guys in it at most with him (Wheeler, Nola, Cole, etc.). So, yes, other than the Mets and Phillies, no other team can match that kind of quality at the top of the rotation. Certainly not the Cardinals, who are our primary competition in the NL Central.
  17. Burnes has been the best starter in baseball since 2020. No one has numbers across the board as good as him and over as many innings as him in that time frame. He's in the "bucket of buckets" with DeGrom (when healthy) and probably Scherzer. Woodruff is in the "bucket" after that, and even then there's only 5-8 guys in it at most with him (Wheeler, Nola, Cole, etc.). So, yes, other than the Mets and Phillies, no other team can match that kind of quality at the top of the rotation. Certainly not the Cardinals, who are our primary competition in the NL Central.
  18. Except Lauer didn't throw 100 innings, he threw 160....And in the last two years combined, he's produced the 37th best WAR and a better ERA than Luis Castillo, Yu Darvish, Frankie Montas, etc. You saw what happened when those innings had to go to a guy like Jason Alexander. Most teams would kill for a rotation of Eric Lauers. Either way, that doesn't accord with your "endless supply" statement.
  19. And this is the not the greatest perspective, either. Hader, while undoubtedly one of the best relievers in baseball, is still a guy with finite value. WAR, despite its limitations, is by far the best method of measuring that value. Starters are more valuable than relievers as they pitch far more innings over the course of a season. That's always the way it's been. With six full years of control, Gasser, even though he may turn out not be an all-star like Hader, will still prove more valuable to this franchise than Hader would have been over 1.5 years if he becomes a staple in the rotation like he is projected to be. You say the "Lauers" of the world are dime a dozen. Besides that simply not being true, you can also say that it's far easier to find effective relievers than it is to find effective starters. To keep competing for the playoffs and potentially a World Series, we will need starters like Lauer/Gasser.
  20. I mean, anything they get for one of those guys is almost certainly going to be in unproven prospect capital, which would come in addition to the several rookies that they'll have to rely on next season. Unless they immediately go out and trade for/sign SEVERAL proven players (i.e., Jansen, Abreu, etc.), which we should be highly skeptical of due to our limited resources, they would a lot like the 2022 Diamondbacks. What separates us from most teams in the league is the Burnes-Woodruff 1-2 punch at the top of the rotation, which gives us 2 of the best 5 or 10 pitchers in the world. Take that away, and we're very average to below average elsewhere. Given that we only won 86 games this season WITH those guys, saying we would be lucky to win 85 games without one or both of them isn't "silly", it's reality.
  21. I mean, anything they get for one of those guys is almost certainly going to be in unproven prospect capital, which would come in addition to the several rookies that they'll have to rely on next season. Unless they immediately go out and trade for/sign SEVERAL proven players (i.e., Jansen, Abreu, etc.), which we should be highly skeptical of due to our limited resources, they would a lot like the 2022 Diamondbacks. What separates us from most teams in the league is the Burnes-Woodruff 1-2 punch at the top of the rotation, which gives us 2 of the best 5 or 10 pitchers in the world. Take that away, and we're very average to below average elsewhere. Given that we only won 86 games this season WITH those guys, saying we would be lucky to win 85 games without one or both of them isn't "silly", it's reality.
  22. This is still the most likely scenario, imo. Everything that Stearns has said about "bringing back the core" and "competing" indicates this. Without Burnes and/or Woodruff, they'll be lucky to win more than 85 games. With both of them, they have a shot to win 95. Extend one of them (probably Woodruff) this offseason and then trade the other next offseason for a still significant haul.
  23. This is still the most likely scenario, imo. Everything that Stearns has said about "bringing back the core" and "competing" indicates this. Without Burnes and/or Woodruff, they'll be lucky to win more than 85 games. With both of them, they have a shot to win 95. Extend one of them (probably Woodruff) this offseason and then trade the other next offseason for a still significant haul.
  24. Interesting. My guess is that they sign one of Burnes or Woodruff (probably Woodruff) to an extension this offseason, in the mold of the recent Castillo and Musgrove deals. Besides the fact that it is so hard to develop elite starting pitching in the first place, they might feel the need to do so given the huge hit they took from the fanbase after the Hader trade. They would get absolutely excoriated for trading Hader, Burnes, and Woodruff in successive years.
  25. Contreras isn't coming to Milwaukee. Nor would I want him to.
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