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Walker or Kenneth Grant are two guys who could be in play. Walker is a monster and a freak who I think will climb up boards(along with Grant). But I'd like either. Carter isn't really a fit anymore. Even in the 3-4, he didn't fit the Packers profile, but as a DE at 6-2 245? I guess if Hafley thought he could play off-ball and then on 3rd down rush the passer...maybe late in Rd 2? Or maybe they're willing to sacrifice the 3 down edge for a guy who's a little more explosive? Mykel Williams from UGA is more likely. 6'5 265 and he's more fluid. LT Overton from 'Bama. A lot of similarities to Rashan Gary...who I still think is going to have a big 2nd half. Tacario Davis-I don't care about picks as much at CB, just stay in position. I just don't know if he's more of a C2 corner or a long Press Man, but he's pretty physical and gets his head around and looks like he'll at least be in the 4.5 range. Jonah Monheim would be the Center I think is the most likely. 6'5 310, but he's so versatile. He can play in a ZBS. He's played OT, OG and now is starting at Center. I think watching the Packers they're running less zone blocking and more gap schemes. Shavon Revel- 6'3 CB from East Carolina has some Kevin King like physical abilities(which is a plus, King's athleticism wasn't his problem). I think you can mostly write off WR early. Watson and Doubs are the two who are a year away and then Reed, Wicks, Melton, Heath...feels like I'm missing someone, they've got two years left. So unlikely they draft one there. I think DL makes a LOT of sense. Walker could be a top 5-10 pick based on physical ability. But by that same measure. Albert Haynesworth could have been a all-time great DT. I don't know if Walker has any work ethic issues, but he's so dominant at times, I would have to think he'd possibly go early. CB-Also makes a lot of sense. I liked Jordan Morgan. I had him and Tyler Guyton as two guys I was hoping they'd pick...but I think if Mitchell or Cooper had fallen one more spot, either one would be playing CB in GB right now and we'd have a long term starter. With how much we stress that position, it just makes sense to go get a long, athletic press man corner early. OL-The Ron Wolf theory. Always try to upgrade. Myers is in a walk year. Rhyan has actually played pretty well. Walker is not all that impressive. Morgan has been injured and his future could be at LT or OG. If there's a OT in the 1st, I could see them going back there, especially if they want to move Tom at some point(he'll get paid this off-season and likely something like 5/110 or 4/88) so he's not going to lose money to play another position. LT-Josh Simmons OSU He may end up falling to the 2nd. He'd be a really interesting pick. He looked really good before the knee injury. Torn ACL could keep him out of Rd1, but make him a good target in Rd 2. I'm skeptical with Walker's injury history the Packers will pay him(eligible after this season). Again, back to back years at OL, but if you're getting positional versatility, who cares? Another CB makes the secondary look REALLY good. DL has been an issue all year and is so expensive to address via trade/free agency and they could definitely grab a WR, but the value would really have to be there. A couple luxury picks, Tyler Warren Penn State. I'd LOVE a 3TE set with Musgrave, Kraft and Warren. Also saves Kraft and Musgrave just isn't that physical inline TE. Jihaad Campbell-MLB Alabama I don't think the Packers will use a 1st or 2nd on another LB, but he's an athletic, 3 down LB who'd add something at the point. The one guy I'm really hoping is there in Rd1 is Kenneth Grant. Even if you have to give up a bit to move up, he'd be worth it. I think he's a similar prospect to Kenny Clark, but a bigger body, probably more natural as a pass rusher than Clark as a rookie.

I like Yeager and IIRC, he was the more...highly touted reliever at the time of the trade. But if he doesn't pan out, that trade is really going to end up looking bad for us!

There has to be something about Patrick the organization just isn't as high on. We needed innings several times this past year and he never got the call despite just consistently pitching really well. I've seen people say he can tough 97...IDK if that was early and rare or what, but if they didn't call him up last year, seems strange they'd hold onto him this year, particularly if he may cost you a guy like Ernesto Martinez for example. Someone we've put 7 years into. Ashby seems like he's penciled in as a starter. Him, Woodruff, Hall, our top two prospects probably not being capable of throwing more than 140 innings...at most. I'm not sure either even got to 100IP this year, so another year of building and maybe throwing out of the pen. So for those reasons you'd think he'd be back, but they also seem to uncover a lot of these types of arms.

Nah, the other way was right!

It takes a little time when you tear it all down and rebuild it. We wouldn't have replaced our K, LS, P and of course we recycled most of the bottom half of the roster because we rebuilt the whole team. Our STs look...average now. They'd probably be in the top ~12 if they had a good kicking game. I think Rizzi should have been hired, that's a mistake we can't take back, but that's...6-7 years ago now. Rich B hasn't been a silver bullet, but...he's been alright. It's hard to find good replacements at all these positions all at the same time. This was the point the whole time. Anders Carlson wasn't THE failure, Rich B isn't THE failure, Gute was as much of a part of the problem as them and so was timing. They all played a part in it...and I'm sure we'll try to once again "solve" the kicking issue next year.

The Brewers took back roughly ~1M more than was going out in the Hader deal. That's...not really a ton of money,. even for the Brewers. That's also a bigger factor for an in-season trade as it helped get the Pads under the luxury tax...which they were just hanging around.

Well...again, they've certainly tried, but last year it was every aspect. Wheelan has been the better at everything, so...I guess the only we can do... 2025 NFL Mock 1st rd 32-Green Bay Packers Bailey Parsons, LS, Stanford It's the only reasonable thing to do at this point... Hey, he even has a highlight video!

We'd be in a WHOLE lot of trouble without Willis. They don't get a 1st down on that pass to Reed(or a big play)...Jax probably wins. We always seem to struggle with Jax on the road. Willis is even more surprising to me than the whole Love thing. You' had 3 years with Love to get him ready. You had less than 2 weeks to get Willis ready and he looks like a really good NFL QB. Not sure how much of it is coaching him up vs how much is just game planning around his talent. I'm about 90% sure neither is enough to beat Det next week though. Especially if Wlliams and company are out as well.

And the kicker they've got was one of the best in the league last year, he's been an AP... Not exactly like a rookie, but...just Jets like stuff going on. If he was as good as he was last year, they're probably...5-3? Rodgers has thrown 3 picks late in games they could have won. I get why Saleh is without a job though! Definitely his fault...

They are...but Daniels is...pretty clearly the much better player at this point. The Bears have started with one of the easiest schedules for a Rookie QB you could have. This was the toughest game...so points for that, but Williams plays sloppy and undisciplined. He's clearly got an incredibly talented arm and he's elusive, but their coaching is just...moronic. Two straight QB draws before the 4th and 3 PI was called on a ball in the EZ that Allen likely isn't getting to? Most of the best young teams go with an offensive-minded coach to help their QB out. Williams isn't getting that. They did build up the weapons around him though.

AHAHAHA!!! Same here! Especially after that Hail Marry!

Which team is the most dysfunctional right now? I don't think any team is in worse position than the Saints, 82M over the cap and...they just keep signing guys like Chase Young for 1 year 13M type deals and then 4 void years. The Jets-They have drafted multiple QBs in the top 5, then trade for Rodgers. They hit on a bunch of picks, have a ton of talent all over but turn everything over to Rodgers and...somehow suck. 10 All Pros on that team. Or the Browns. The team that appeared to be on it's way to finally breaking through, were a little up and down with Baker, but went and traded for Watson...which would have made perfect sense ~15 months earlier when everyone wanted him, but they did it after he sat for a year(and then 11 more games) and are basically just running out the clock until they can get his dead cap low enough to eat it...by which time, most of the great young talent they had, Myles Garrett for example, they'll have been completely wasted. Panthers-Went all in on a year there were no "sure" things at QB and handed the Bears the tools to finally get it right?

Still not sure why you think a team is going to take 3 players we would otherwise just DFA.

Yelich, Contreras, Hoskins are not "massive holes."

I don't know if they will. There are two weeks left and they're not a contender...but I'm looking at it from the Vikings perspective. They'd be giving up a lot of draft assets, they'd be sitting (edit-McCarthy) another 2-3 years, cap would be blown up, they'd have 2 5th rd picks this year(total) and they'd have to give up more the following year. The Rams have 2 weeks. If they keep him, fine. They're missing an opportunity in my opinion since they're not good and Stafford, Cupp, any other veterans...I'd say Noteboom, but he and two other starters are on IR. The team is half-old, half young and really not good. The Thursday Night game, they're flukey. 11th best record in the NFC tied with 3 teams and SF and AZ are both better...IMO and the Seattle game is right before the deadline. It probably won't happen, but they probably should and it'd cripple Minnesota, so I'll root for it.

I mostly agree with this. I think Darrisaw is huge for that team and a really good young OT and a huge loss for Minnesota. He's not a Sewell type OT, but closer to a Zach Tom. I see the parallels to the 13-4 season, but this team has looked much better this year. I throw out the TNF games... I just don't know what Sam Darnold really is. They still have the 4 teams the Bears were lucky to get to start the season. That was the NFLs way of helping Caleb Williams since their coaches aren't exactly developing QBs like Tom Clements. So that helped them ease in and the Vikings still get to see those teams. Great coaching staff. Detroit is really good, but without their starting DEs, unless they make a huge move and add a DE, the loss of Hutchinson is just too big. Chicago is not there yet, Caleb looks much better, but that's been a soft schedule. Packers seem like they're in a really good situation right now. DL got some pressure last week, even if it was scheme rather than just beating their man, that should get better. Lloyd and Musgrave coming back give the Packers more options, Wicks, Doubs are playing better. Not a single complete game and they just beat a 5-1 team with two turnovers inside the ~10-15 and they still pulled it out. I think they're going to just round into form and they'll take off.

There were just comments about Darnold getting 50M in Free Agency, now...they'll replace him with Stafford! I think I'd actually be for that. They've got 3 picks in this upcoming draft, a 1 and 2 5ths. They picked JJ McCarthy...who is really hard to evaluate(he's tough, athletic, but didn't throw much). But they'd almost certainly have to start with 2 1sts, right? That seems to be the standard for a starting QB of his caliber...and then probably a couple more day 2 picks. Is Stafford that big of an upgrade over what Darnold has done to leave them without 1sts for '25 and '26 and then just 6-7 picks total those two years?

Yeah, the Arenado deal made far less sense than this would make for the Rockies. The Rockies don't operate under any type of coherent strategy. But, McMahon's problem are the stark contrast between Coors and the Road. .265/.340/.474 with an .814 OPS at home .220/.306/.367 and .673 OPS on the road Good BABIP at home. 335. But just under .300 on the road, so it's not like it's poor luck. Are we paying 3 years and 44M for a .673 OPS? Or even if you split the difference. .240/.325/.425? Even at that price is that worth 12/16/16 million per year? But now you're giving away Tyler Black, probably our best MLB ready trade chip AND the player I want to give up even less, Abner Uribe. Uribe has dominant, All-Star closer type upside. He's gotta grow up a bit and he needs to throw more strikes, but to be able to slide Megill into the closers role and have a guy like Uribe who can come in and put out the fires like Megill did, that's invaluable. Or be a lock down closer himself. This dude is a HEAVY GB pitcher who throws 103-104 at times, his slider is upper 90s and he's got a 60-grade slider. And yet...his value is low due to an emotionally immature outburst last year and a suspension that...I believe he'd have worked his way back by June, but he had a meniscus tear. So between the contract, the talent we're giving up and the home/road splits, they'd have to eat a big chunk of that deal...IMO.

Dude...I got to see this team win a Title...I got to see Giannis and now I get to see Dame healthy and in shape. Middleton last year was near prime Middleton in the post-season(at least offensively). I know it's asking a lot, but they get to May, June with a healthy team...I like our odds. Giannis and Dame have something to prove, Middleton is a much better #3 with this group. The length of Prince and Wright...I'd like to see Beauchamp play more because I still think there's something there and I don't want to see Middleton play more than ~55 games and 30MPG in those games. I think AJax will be a dude this year. I'm also looking at the rest of the league and while Boston is a powerhouse and Philly and NYK are probably better when healthy, I don't care. It's the reality of the NBA, but you CAN mortgage the future and we've done that and no better time to do that than with Giannis. In retrospect, bring Halliburton back home would have been wiser than Dame, but what can you do? I put it at about 10% we have one last run, but again, if not...I enjoyed the Suns series and I can respect that the ownership group did what they said they would(Save for maybe Brogdon, but...bygones and all that). 1-0 On pace for 82-0!

Timing works out for us. If we want to add someone, we have the Jags(on the road...which has historically been a tough game) and the big matchup with the Lions. Not sure we're going to do much. Stokes could go to a team short on CBs if he's fallen out of favor, or we could look to add someone, though not sure where. Most trades would be a marginal upgrade. The big rumors are...very unlikely. Be nice to see Johnathan Ford active this week...see if he can help vs the run. It's the one thing we're still struggling with the Jags do well.

I still think Lieter, 24, is a pretty damn good prospect. He's got some mechanical issues and I've no doubt the Brewers could get the most out of him. He's spent part of one year in, 9 games in the Major Leagues. I agree it's a moot point, but he's a power-hitting 2B who still plays elite defense and...again, 24+ WAR the last 4 years. He's pretty damn good and a 4-year deal is not bad. I don't think the Brewers would do it, but...I'm skeptical other teams would need to jump through hoops in order to just take on Semien's contract. 26M a year is too much for the Brewers, but the Phillies, Giants, Yankees(Who could REALLY use some IF defense and power). And as much as I love Willy, if, there were a scenario in which we were committing 26M to a player, I'd rather it be 4 years of Semien rather than 7 years of Adames.

How else would you? Just teach someone else on the team how to do it? Because it's a specialist and what teams in the league do you see having someone else holding? Malik Willis? He's never been a holder. Any other position player? And if they get hurt? You anecdotally don't remember any bad holds. The playoff game=bad hold. Because they're DIRECTLY related. I don't know how to put that more plainly. See...you've turned this into a "why didn't they cut the LS, change the holder if they were issues." ASIDE from repeatedly saying they were ONE PART of the issue, not the whole issue, they tried to replace the LS and have done so numerous times. The Holder(again) was a 1st year punter who's improved. You're still(somehow) viewing this as a binary choice. It's EITHER the LSer, Holder or Kicker and I'm trying to explain it's a unit. So when you don't block Patrick Peterson off the edge and he takes it off the kickers foot=Not on the Kicker When they get a push up the middle and block the ball=Not on the Kicker When it's a bad hold vs the 49ers and the ball isn't placed right=not on the Kicker When the kicker just misses it...it's on the Kicker. I can't come up with a simpler explanation as to why we'd be discussing other aspects of the kicking unit when talking about...missed kicks.

What team in the NFL has had a kicker, punter AND holder? You used to have a QB hold...we don't do that any longer. You're saying it hasn't been a big issue or "as big of an issue as some suggest," and thus why haven't they changed the LS and Punter/Holder. You're acknowledging the LS issues, again, Wheelan was as I just said, a rookie last year, a guy who came from Ireland and Soccer. HE'S improved. I'm not sure how this is controversial. There's 3 aspects to a kick. Snap, hold, kick(4 with the blocking as we had blocked kicks last year as well). You're acknowledging they've been bad...so I guess I don't know what "that big of an issue," means. It's the NFL. We're talking about how bad 82% was. How that was unacceptable. We're not parsing out percentages for how many were strictly on the kicker vs the holder vs the long snapper, the unit blocking... I don't know how to do that without lining up every kick and watching them. They seem like they were quite a bit better this year and specifically Wheelan, so I don't see a reason to use another roster spot on a holder specialist. If Rasheed Walker gets beaten, Love gets hurried, hit as he throws the ball, do we debate if the result was entirely on Love, Walker or do we say the unit was bad that play? Or even in that particular sequence, the OL was bad, that forced it? If there's no pressure and Love throws the ball over the middle(I'm thinking of the Watson injury) do we say that one was on Love? This is the ultimate team game.

It feels like they almost never do. What's the TOP paid kicker? Roughly 6M. The FA class for kicker is not real impressive, two 40 year old kickers. Eddy Pineiro might be the best, he kicked for the Bears. But even two years out, Daniel Carlson is the best and he's one of 3 kickers in 2026 that is a FA. If you're a kicker, you're good, it's not like betting on yourself is going to earn you another 40M GTD or 20M as a WR, DE, so who doesn't take the 5-6M extension? https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/_/year/2025/position/k/sort/contract_value

Well, they just cut their long snapper on...Monday. It was a procedural move, but they did so with absolutely no fear anyone else would claim him. They signed the top long snapper in the past draft. They've gone through multiple long snappers in the last several years and have seemingly looked under just about every rock for one. And Wheelan was just a 1st year Punter who hadn't held much. He's gotten better. But again, we JUST saw a terrible snap. You had Wheelan save a safety a couple games ago, you have him take one off the ground and get it down in time for McManus. It's pretty obvious given the Long Snappers they've cycled through, they understand the problem...they just haven't found one. Doesn't mean Carlson or Narveson haven't just missed, but if the ball is blocked, if the hold has the laces facing the kicker and the ball tilted left to right, if the snap forces the kicker out of his timing, they all add up to a bad operation. Multiple things can be true.