Crew07, you made a long and detailed analysis which is appreciated, but I guess the nagging question is, "What would you have done at this point?" Greinke wasn't available five years ago and Marcum probably wasn't available three years ago, like you suggested. It seems like your alternative would have been to make a couple mediocre moves this winter, and accept another losing season in 2011, just to preserve the farm system. I don't think that would be acceptable from a business standpoint for the Brewers. The difference with the Packers and the way Ted Thompson runs things is that the Pack was able to weather a few mediocre seasons because they'll always sell out Lambeau Field. They'll always get a ton of money from media revenue due to the NFL's lucrative sharing structures. If the Brewers had another bad season, the attendance would dip drastically, and they don't have the media revenue that even comes close to other teams throughout the league. From how I gather you would hypothetically run things, we'd have a couple more mediocre years in '11 and '12, pray and hope some guys like Lawrie and Odorizzi make it, and then probably see them blossoming just as Braun and Gallardo leave in free agency. I just don't see how that plan would possibly be palatable. I guess we'd still be able to point to having a great farm system, though. You admit you are in your own boat, and that's fine. It would just be nice if you realized that you can't keep retroactively pointing to hypothetical moves that were probably never going to happen, or refuse to acknowledge this team actually has to put a winning product on the field at the major league level. The majority of those 3 million fans coming through the gates at Miller Park don't care about how Baseball America ranks our system, or if the Huntsville Stars make the playoffs. I said this earlier somewhere, but I still believe that in one year's time, the overall health of our franchise in terms of the minors, is going to look much better. Going off Tom Haudricourt's article that Mass Haas linked to above, I think the Brewers' brass feels the same way. Granted, you're getting that from the horse's mouth, but somehow I don't think they are being entirely disingenuous.