Of course it is what the team is capable of...I am simply saying I think the win totals of those two guys in particular will be a big time indicator of whether or not this team has playoff potential. But let's face it, over the course of a season, a SP's win total has much to do with how that particular pitcher pitches. Of course there are factors like run support, defense etc., but for what I'm talking about, those are also relevant. Let's face something else, if your starting pitcers aren't racking up decent win totals, you probably aren't winning that many games. To put it very simply, for the Brewers to make the playoffs (at leats be in contention the last weekend), I am of the opinion Gallardo and Parra need to combine to post about 30 wins (I use that as an indicator of not only how well they pitch, but also the overall team performance, what is required of the bullpen, etc.), If not, I guess I don't see it happening. The question is, is that possible?