I didn't say he was Turnbow, I said it sounded like he may be turning into Turnbow. No doubt his overall numbers are still quite good. However since he started struggling around the middle of June, they aren't very good. Over the past 5 weeks or so he has 12.2 IP w/ 12 H, 14 ER, 14 BB, 12K, 9.95 ERA, 2.21 WHIP. If those aren't Turnbow numbers, I don't know what are. Now, obviously a good chance he'll turn it around, but his performance the last couple months is not at all unlike what happened to Turnbow toward the end of last year. Actually, there is a difference...Turnbow didn't give up HR's. Marmol has.