I think this is what brewjihad was getting at, but I'm thinking that maybe the original point of jaybirds post was that new fans are fine, but new fans who are unwilling to admit that they are new and act like they have been fans for their entire life is another. I do understand jaybird's frustration. When the Packers were having their great years in the mid 90s and the Brewers were, well, "not doing so good" (not to mention the labor disputes and cancelled WS in MLB), I continued to follow them closely, had my 15 game pack at County stadium, wore Brewers clothing to work, etc. Everyone I worked with knew I was a big baseball fan and Brewer fan. Some of them pretty much mocked me and questioned how I could possibly like baseball or follow such a horrible team. So now, I see some of these same people who questioned my Brewer fandom back in the 90's wearing Brewer's gear, telling me about all the Brewer games they are going too, about how much they love the Brewers. I understand these new Brewer fans bring the team revenue which is helpful if we have hopes for the Brewers to continue their success going forward. I just hope that these new fans remain fans when the Brewers fortunes turn down the road..and they will, maybe in a couple of years, maybe in 5 years?, 10 years?, but they will. Maybe referring to these new fans as "idiots" is a bit harsh, but I understand the frustration.