That is not what anybody is saying. What if, with regular playing time, Broxton turns into a really good player? That helps Counsell's career and the Brewers win more. "You can try to win while not particularly caring if you do win" Thats what I responded to. Pure and simple I really think you're overdramatizing this quote a bit. This team is not tanking. No one is being asked to lose or struggle; players, coaches, or managers. With very rare exceptions, fans aren't asking that either. It all really comes down to a broader goal than a 162 game season. It's not about losing, but it's also not about having the best possible record at the end of 162 games, it's about having the best record and team in X number of years when we have a chance to compete again. And rebuilding is about using players that have a chance to help you have that best possible team in X number of years. Who has a chance to be a part of a competitive Brewers team in say, 3 years? Keon Broxton might. Kirk Nieuwenhuis most likely does not. 'Trying to win while nor really caring if you do' is probably underselling the competitive desire of players to win, but I don't think it's really literal. When I watch a Brewers game, I want them to win. I do care. But at the end of the season, I don't really care about whether they win 68 or 72 games, and if they're answering honestly, the organization doesn't either.