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A barely above average PFF grade? A regression to only 6.5 sacks despite being the 8th highest paid edge rusher in the NFL? Not really sure what you’re looking for here. Even Gary himself and his DC sounded surprised, and I don’t think even the staunchest Gary supporters would describe his season as something other than disappointing.
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Not sure how Rashan Gary made the Pro Bowl. Certainly wasn’t on the merit of his performance.
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I’m not taking anything away from the Packers’ trophy that year. As you say, it’s always hard to win the Super Bowl. I'm simply stating that this year’s NFC field and that one are apples and oranges. This isn’t revisionist anything. The #2 seed in the NFC that year was an 11-5 Bears team who had to win one game at home against the 7-9 Seahawks to reach the NFC Championship Game. It’s simply a much weaker field, regardless of what might happen in this year’s field. If Philly and Minnesota lose in the first round, it could be not because the NFC isn’t really good this year but because the Packers/Bucs/Rams are also good football teams potentially capable of winning those games. And yes I agree that they don’t have the kind of impact players that they need to take that next step. Josh Jacobs was probably the closest, and he’s not going to likely be enough. Gute is going to need to do more. Youth is great, but only to a point when you’re trying to win it all. They desperately need to add a #1 type receiver and impact pass rusher.
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Also, I know we are going to hear 2010-11 run comparisons next week, pretty unavoidable, but the road this year is going to be much harder. For a 6 seed, ‘10-‘11 was actually about as easy of a road as you could ask for. It was just a down year for the NFC. Philly was about a 50/50 game which went our way. Atlanta was probably the toughest game on the road but they were closer to a 13-3 paper tiger than a true contender depending on who you asked. We fell just short in their place in the regular season and the rematch was a blowout. Chicago was a typical team from that era of Bears teams. Good defense with not much offense to speak of. Weak #2 seed. Probably 3-4 better teams in this NFC field than any of those ‘10-‘11 opponents, honestly.
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4% sounds about right. Their road is probably @Philly, then @Detroit and @Minnesota in some order. If they manage to survive that gauntlet I would guess they’d be favored in SB 59 against any AFC opponent kind of like how things unfolded for SB 45. Pretty remote chance but hot runs like that have happened and aren’t completely outside the boundaries of any possible reality.
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Agree with all this, but the TJ Watt miss falls on the shoulders of the late Ted Thompson.
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I expect that when you draft defensive players in the first round, especially as high as #13, they will be ready to contribute in meaningful ways sometime in their first couple years and not be liabilities. That seems like a reasonable expectation. As far as your other points, that’s the way of the business. I haven’t looked it up, but I would guess that MLF is one of the longer tenured head coaches in the NFL. No matter what their regular season accomplishments are, you simply don’t see 10+ year head coaches in the NFL that don’t even have a Super Bowl appearance to their name. It’s the exact same reason that McDermott’s seat is warm in Buffalo despite all their regular season accomplishments.
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I, too, would like to see a Packer team that doesn’t require elite QB play to win championships. So far, the returns on the defensive investments are not going to be good enough for that to happen. However, as someone else pointed out in the game thread, your HC is this supposed offensive guru and your quarterback just got a massive extension. I think it’s absolutely fair to criticize the fact that in numerous big games this season, slow starts by the offense — slow to the point of being almost nonexistent in the first half, have put the defense in a really bad spot.
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Gute isn’t getting nearly enough criticism for the Packers’ inability to take that next step. He is at the front and center of all these defensive misses. There has been WAY too much investment in the defense to have this mediocre of personnel. I think Hafley, despite not his best game today, gets about the best he can out of what he has. You can’t take a Lukas Van Ness at #13 and get nothing out of it besides a mediocre rotational player. Can’t happen. It sets your franchise back, when you never get to pick that high and whiff at your one shot at it.
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Game 16: Packers @ Vikings - Sunday, Dec. 29th 3:25 PM
adambr2 replied to HarryDoyle's topic in Other Sports
“We’ve got to earn the right to play these guys again” Yup, you said the exact same thing after the loss in Detroit. At some point, you have to get it done, Matty Schottenheimer. -
I think it’s a fair statement to say that the 2024 Packers are a very good team that did not take the next step to being a top echelon team this year like we hoped they would, for 3 main reasons: 1) Their rivals improved much more than they did. 2) Jordan Love did not improve to the level that we need him to to be a top tier team. 3) We have not gotten the results that we need out of the defensive linemen and linebackers that we’ve drafted, developed, and paid to generate enough pass rush to beat elite teams.
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I have a faint hope that something can happen like last year in the WC round where everything just sort of finally falls into place, they start clicking and Philly is shocked and down 17 at half. In this case I think if you win that you can maybe finally build on that and start figuring out how to win these games and continue going strong. I am not holding my breath, though. Being overmatched seems like the more plausible outcome to me.
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I have to think that Green Bay and Washington are going to have the same day and kickoff next week. It wouldn’t be fair to either to know they can just rest starters going into the game.
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The only game that Philly has lost since September is that 3 point game in Washington where they had Kenny Pickett under center. They have the best running back in the league, a mobile QB, two high end WRs, and a top defense. I'd agree maybe they aren’t as well coached as the Vikes or Lions, but talent-wise, they’re among the best. I’d feel better about a 3rd dance with Minnesota or Detroit than I do about winning a game in Philadelphia.
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Yeah, I am fairly sure of that outcome, just as you are fairly sure that Minnesota will choke in the postseason as you predicted earlier today. Dallas is cooked. Did you see how bad Philly smoked them today? Yeah, they did beat them earlier this season, but now that they’ve shut down Lamb for the season, they have absolutely no offensive weapons. Maybe they try to play hard for Mike, but unless Washington is benching starters, I’m 90% sure Dallas isn’t putting up much of a fight.
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Well, the flip side is that Washington has a signature win against Philly. We don’t. That’s the tiebreaker right there. Win one single game out of five chances against Philly, Detroit and Minnesota and the conference record is a moot point.
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I’m not saying you should win all of them but if there’s supposedly not this much space between the field you shouldn’t lose ALL of them. Losing in the WC round to Philly, whether close or not, would be a disappointing season and step back from last year.
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No. We are the 7. Honestly, might as well rest starters next week. You know Philly will be.
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Congrats, Packers. Your inability to beat a single elite team in 5 tries is going to earn you a 6th try right off the bat in the playoffs. And congratulations, Raheem Morris. You handed Tampa Bay the division solely because you don’t know how to manage a clock.
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If he calls timeout after that first long gain there’s a good chance the Falcons get down in actual FG range. I get that you’re making these decisions in the spur of the moment but you’d think he would have learned from his botch at the end of the first half. Nope.
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I guess that’s why we didn’t sign Riley Patterson. What a weenie-leg.
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Atlanta’s coach is horrendous at clock management. At the end of both halves he burned a ton of time and kept timeouts in his pocket after big gains.
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That was a hell of a play on 4th and 13, but with this amount of time left I don’t have any reason to believe that Daniels isn’t going to drive right down for the game winning field goal.
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I know that was a tough ask but Penix has got to find a way to get out of the pocket with the ball (which he did) and just chuck that thing out of the back of the endzone (which he didn’t).
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Lol, great open field tackle, Terrell.
