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Mike Vrabel is one of this head coaches with this radical idea of trusting his offensive and defensive coordinators to run their units so he can focus on overall team strategy, game/clock management, and leadership.
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LOL@ Houston punting. I know they weren’t going to convert but you have to at least try.
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A 12 point lead with 5:48 left and New England just punted, and yet the game still feels like a forefone conclusion. If we just punted with a 12 point lead and 5:48 left, we’d be crapping our pants.
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If the Rams don’t win tonight there is not really anybody to root for.
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We always find a way to screw that up, whether it be Anders Carlson or Brandon McManus or that guy from Tennessee that we thought was going to be a thing before McManus. We will probably spend a 3rd round pick on a kicker next year, only to have him hit 70% next year while other teams pull some senior citizen like Matt Prater off the street and see him hit 90%.
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I think it’s consequential, because I think if the real world situation were that playoffs were never expanded, Matt wouldn’t have a job right now, and I think it’s bought him an extension and more time. His playoff appearances are one of his biggest talking points. I agree that he’s an in-game buffoon and unless he learns over the course of the next 8 months how to effectively delegate tasks and not micromanage when he isn’t a good multi-tasker, things aren’t going to change.
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You said, and I quote, “They nearly won anyway, and if they had won they wouldn’t have been a 7 seed.” That was the part I was saying was incorrect. I even gave you credit on the other part saying it was kind of true, but also due to injury, so all of the context was explained. Then instead of just owning the correction, you get defensive and say that wasn’t your point when I’m literally quoting your post.
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You’re just incorrect, I don’t know how else to say it. They finished 11-6, and Washington finished 12-5 as the 6 seed and had the tiebreaker via better conference record. A Packer win would not have changed their seeding. The Love thing is kinda true, kinda not, he did start and was only removed because of injury but they did play it safe with him when he could have likely still played, but it was because of the injury. He wasn’t “benched”. And again regardless of all that they could have won 84-0 and they still would have been a 12-5 seven seed.
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Why is it that New England can turn a total dumpster fire with numerous holes into a powerful juggernaut overnight, and we have to hear “hang on! Be patient! Youngest team in the NFL! Growing and developing!” for like 5 years.
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Huh? The 7 seed was definitely a good accomplishment in 2023, I’ll grant that, but it’s still relevant to point out that they would have missed the playoffs under any pre-MLF coaching regime. Both are true. They definitely played to win in Week 18 last year and even if they had won, they would have been the 7 seed. This was the only year that they did in fact punt Week 18 but the reason was that they were already capped at the 7. In none of the three seasons could the Packers have raised their seeding with a different outcome in Week 18.
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I will be very curious to see what the Bills do with McDermott. I am still blown away by the MLF extension: - He lost his last 5 games - He blew an 18 point lead in the last game against his division rivals - He hasn’t finished better than the 7 seed in the conference in 4 seasons and has won one playoff game during that span. - After all that, which would have likely earned him his walking papers much earlier in just about any other NFL city, he is going to likely get a 50% or more raise and multiple more years of commitment. If McDermott gets a pink slip, MLF becomes the longest tenured NFL head coach never to play in the Super Bowl.
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In Matt’s case I think he absolutely could use a little bit more of an edge. I think he’s too “nice” and it translates a little bit into the identity of this team. We have a reputation for being soft. We have a reputation for not knowing how to respond when someone gets rough with us and fights back. Usually our response is just stupidity in the form of 15 yard personal foul penalties, not more intense football. Things like MLF and Eberflus going to basketball games together were kind of ridiculous. I think Matt expected the same kind of relationship with Ben Johnson. I think he expected the warm handshakes, pats on the shoulder and short post-game conversation at midfield. When Ben talked about how much he enjoyed beating MLF twice a year, MLF seemed totally miffed. He genuinely didn’t know how to react or respond to a rival not liking him because he’s a rival.
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Agreed. Give me a HC any day that says “eff the Bears” in the locker room after the game. Our current one may as well trot out to midfield in a sundress to shake Ben Johnson’s hand especially after the last two games.
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3? They’ve been to 2, and lost they both. So it’d be safe to say if Denver wins next weekend, he’s already accomplished more with them than MLF has here. The Packers weren’t great when MLF took over, but he still had Aaron Rodgers, not a washed Russell Wilson and no picks to work with because of that deal. I didn’t say he’s a super genius wizard. I just said he’s a better head coach than Matt Lafleur.
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You say one Super Bowl like it’s a small detail. If Matt Lafleur could even just reach one Super Bowl, let alone win one, half of the arguments that his detractors like myself have wouldn’t be valid arguments. I don’t care for Sean Payton personally and when he was hired I was right where you are on him. But that Broncos organization was in rough shape from the Russell Wilson trade when he took over. Payton has already accomplished as much with 2 years of Bo Nix as MLF has with 7 years of Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love.
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Hate this for Josh Allen. Really wanted this for him with us out.
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Careful, I got a big thumbs down in the Packers/Broncos game thread for pointing out the obvious fact that Payton is a better HC than MLF.
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If the Packers and Bills both somehow miraculously made the Super Bowl, which team would choke harder?
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Just so textbook “Packer Way” to just stay the course on everything.out of fear of change. It’s a “good old boys” club in Green Bay where as long as you have at least one positive thing to point to, you can somehow word salad your way into telling us everyone is doing a good job. Hell, they are so far gone that they are publicly trying to sell us on Rich Bisaccia, who would have received his pink slip in 31 of 32 other organizations by now if their teams were also done. The bar is competence, not greatness. Easy optimistic prediction for next season: the Packers go 10-7 and don’t win the division. They get into the playoffs and actually win a playoff game before losing by 13 in the Divisional Round. Then Policy, Gute, and MLF have a nice steak dinner out and toast to their improvement.
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I am not going to criticize him too bad for Dame, because I get the thought, but almost all of his intermediate moves, like Crowder and Ibaka, have been complete disasters. Anyone can shake up a roster. The idea for a competent GM is to improve it. Also, no one was asking for Doc Rivers. You don’t have one of the top 3 players in the world and still be in a spot with no playoffs, no cap flexibility and no future picks without completely mismanaging the team.
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Heck I almost prefer 2nds to 1sts with this organization. Our 1sts are always some athletic freaks with off the chart RAS scores who oozing whose performance in real life never quite matches their “upside”.
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It’s tough to dispute any of these points.
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Pro Football reference doesn’t give all the context, though. Mike McCarthy was 11-16-1 in his last two seasons that MLF immediately turned around and had his very good seasons with. Those seasons still matter to interested teams, maybe not as much as the more recent ones but they still matter. Also, 2023 was widely expected to be a rebuilding year for the Packers in the first year under Love. Safe to say that going 9-8 in that season and winning a playoff game was a success, the 11-6 last year was about right, and this year was a letdown. But the overall context of the last three regular seasons isn’t bad. In no way is this my endorsement of MLF. I want him gone. But I can see why teams that are willing to chalk up his playoff record as flukey are interested.
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I personally wouldn’t as a Packer fan, but I don’t have the same perspective as fans of other teams that have had revolving doors at HC and losing records the last few years.
