"Oh yea...and I love how when Turnbow pitches great back-to-back nights you'd think he didn't even play. But if a couple guys get on base, there are 3 pages calling for his demotion to mop-up roll." I didn't post anywhere else in this thread (when I saw that Cordero had blown another save, I just had to laugh, and go to bed. Pleasant news this AM.) But I will respond to this. My thoughts on Turnbow are about as black and white as they can be for any player. I've expressed them in this forum before. When he's got command of both his pitches, he's probably our second best reliever. When he can't command the fastball, and/or is unwilling to throw the breaking ball, he's probably our worst reliever. We seem to have reason to believe that his command suffers with overuse, so hopefully Ned is done trotting him out three consecutive days, like he did prior to a recent bad outing. But the larger point about Turnbow is that it's evident to you, me, Ned Yost, and the peanut vendor after DT has thrown three pitches whether "good" Turnbow or "bad" Turnbow is pitching. I think he's somewhat of an enigma in this regard. Trying to let him 'pitch through a rough spot' works about as well as pouring gas on a fire. I see no reason to yank Turnbow from the set-up role, at least at this point. However, he is who he is. If Yost doesn't have a quick hook when "bad" Turnbow takes the hill, we deserve to lose. Which is fitting, since we're going to. Anyway, Mike's rant aside, nice win here for the Crew, good to see them pick up CoCo after he has carried them all year.