(Hate to turn the vent thread into a discussion thread, but....) If you're gonna play Hall out of position so that you can play Counsell out of position, only to bat Counsell 8th, then why not put Hall at 3B and let TGJ play some great D in CF and bat in Counsell's 8th spot? Offense should stay about the same, but defense should be instantly improved dramatically. I wouldn't mind seeing this experiment run for five straight games. Just think how much tighter our all-around defense would be. I'd be okay with Gross in center, but that's really going for the offensive gusto and maybe not making the defense much better considering Gross' speed ... right now I'd just like to see some expert centerfield played.