Why bring up a topic that is long since passed? When I requested that people "stop calling Turnbow an elite closer" I didn't mean to insinuate that a new thread expressing that was being made every day. A significant group of individuals felt T-Bow was among the best at the end of the 2005 season and it's been one whole month since someone made a thread suggesting just that. I should simply assume that people have completely reversed their opinion on Turnbow after 30 days? As I said, if you're going to call people out and make generalizations, have proof first and don't make someone else look it up for you. If you never thought Turnbow was among the best closers in the game, my post doesn't concern you. I'm not looking to prove to you personally anything. If you thought or still think he is, I don't need to prove to you that you thought it or expressed it on these boards. You already know. And if you actually read that thread, it really doesn't help prove your point, FWIW. I disagree. EDIT: Can we like, disarm or something?