Why does the #9 hitter on the little league team walk so much? He doesn't swing much, and pitchers can't throw strikes when he's up to bat. I will argue until the day that I die that unless you are talking about an elite hitter hitting in front of a non elite hitter (Prince for example), walks are mostly a product of the pitcher. On one hand, you suggest Counsell walks more because he swings less. On the other, you say that walks are mostly a product of the pitcher. How is that not a contradiction? Counsell has always walked a lot: http://www.fangraphs.com/graphs.aspx?playerid=52&position=2B/3B/SS&page=3&type=full Betancourt has never walked a lot: http://www.fangraphs.com/graphs.aspx?playerid=8585&position=SS&page=3&type=full It's obvious that the batter plays a HUGE role in his own walk rate, so you can't be suggesting otherwise. Are you saying that if a batter never swung, he would get as many walks as a guy like Counsell has averaged in a career? That a pitcher can only throw 3 strikes in 6 pitches, 90% of the time and that rate is largely independent of the batter's skill level? Either way, I would love to see some evidence for the position you are willing to argue foruntil you die. And please, no more little league analogies. Might as well compare MLB to slow pitch soft ball.