I have literally hundreds of posts on these topics over the years, but to sum it up I think people are going to go "chicken or the egg" and pick one or other, I think in terms of how the question was framed the answer is both. However I'll take it a step farther and say the organization's vision has been the core issue, and that runs right up to the top in Mark A. I think for many years you could objectively say that the Brewers were the 3rd best run organization in the division from top to bottom, but with everything that's changed (and some issues which have remained) since 2008 I think we're clearly 4th or 5th best. The Brewers aren't progressive in any particular way, they follow market trends in almost every regard, lag behind the market in others, don't really seem to grasp that if you cycle talent you can win today and tomorrow, etc. Without going into any detail at all as I've previously posted my thought in great detail the Brewers are just plain average or below average in every aspect, though I do think the pro-player scouting side is probably the strongest part of the organization. Melvin is also an adept patcher in that he's good at playing whack-a-mole with holes on the MLB roster, but I don't see any long term strategy or vision from the organization, and that has to change. We've never really had depth of talent as an organization, we've basically been 1 player deep at every position and whenever the organization had a +1 that player was traded for some kind of short term solution. From my perspective depth of talent is key, and I don't mean role player depth, I mean replacing Beltran with Taveras, or being able to replace Holliday with Piscotty... having a legitimate player coming up who can be productive and cover an injury or 4. There are posters around here that are fine with that, JB12 hits on that idea in his most recent post, the idea of "the big league roster is solidified, what else do we need?" but I think that's way too shallow a view of the organization. The Brewers aren't just the 25 man roster, not in the short or long term. I don't understand the fascination with "proven veteran talent", plenty of teams around MLB are showing you can win with young talent and that rookies can play a significant role in the post season. I see the other teams in the division (with the exception of Cincy) working to maintain a good mix of youth vs veterans, which is exactly what I would like to see the Brewers do. However we're more like the Cubs of 5-6 years ago, trying to milk every last productive season out of veteran players while we slowly fade to the back of the pack. I'm dead serious when I say that I have no problem projecting the Cubs to be relevant again maybe as soon as 2015 but certainly by 2017, they have the young hitting talent coming, a couple of intriguing pitchers, and the money to spend on FA pitchers to shore up any holes they might have. I don't see Theo repeating the same mistakes he made at the end of his tenure with the Red Sox. In short I see the Cards, Pirates, and Cubs ascending as franchises while the Brewers and Reds are desperately trying to maintain what they currently are. The Brewers could be competitive in 2014, but I don't think there's much legitimate hope looking ahead to the future. The "one season at a time" mentality is going to get you so far and I think we reached our zenith with this strategy in 2011. We just don't have the resources anymore to chase meaningful short term solutions for upcoming roster deficiencies, but that should have never been the focus in the first place. If you're always 1 step behind the market, if you don't consistently develop impact talent, and you are the smallest market in baseball so you don't have gobs of money to spend, and don't find a way to continually cycle fresh young talent back onto the roster then your days are always going to be numbered. You can have spurts of success, but you're never going to sustain anything, and I think that's the Brewer organization at its core.