4/9/08 Reds (Fogg) at Brewers (Bush): 7:05 PM CDT

[Schlitz001]

I agree, it's been tough to watch Gross in center so far, especially after some of the nice plays Gwynn made in the Cubs series. I hope Cameron's 25 games go quick.

[uwisfan]

Gross' glove was just over the top..not much of a jump at all

[homer]

TGJ and Cameron I'll buy - but Kapler?

[brewmann04]

cameron was missed there

[iluvlamp]

When we're talking about weather a pitcher "gives us a chance to win," I'd assume that wins would matter.

You brought up his wins not me. He also had 11 losses. Arbitrary and really useless. I don't think this incarnation of Bush is good. He wasn't ever really good last year. If we have a better pitcher he should start.

 

[uwisfan]

Hart with a close play back to first base.. you could tell just by looking at the reflection off of Counsell's batting helmet how close it was

[brains and braun]

DB certainly would be my odd man out if all things were equal. Of course, they aren't, and we're worried about limiting Parra's innings. But, if we're just talking about our five best starters, for me, Dave Bush is not one of them.

[brewmann04]

well that only one game come back tomorrow and take the Series.

[trwi7]

Phil Dumatrait pitching for the Pirates right now, I'm scared. Remember him?

[sheetswannabe]

Not a strike. Again.

[trwi7]

Oh now Shouse is warming up.

[Pointer1VB]

When we're talking about weather a pitcher "gives us a chance to win," I'd assume that wins would matter.

You brought up his wins not me. He also had 11 losses. Arbitrary and really useless. I don't think this incarnation of Bush is good. He wasn't ever really good last year. If we have a better pitcher he should start.

 

 

Someone said he didn't give us a chance to win (that's why I put it in quotes up there). That's when I brought up the win stat. If you noticed, I quoted the earlier post when I brought that up. I'm not saying Bush is great, but he definitely could work as a bottom of the order pitcher. We shouldn't trade him because with Capuano's injury, Bush is our only option to step into the rotation should someone get hurt.

[sheetswannabe]

If we can get a nice mini 2-3 run rally in the 8th we could do it..

[Pointer1VB]

I bring up wins because if someone says he doesn't "give us a chance to win," a win in the stat category would prove that argument incorrect. I'm not saying his numbers are awesome, but many times he does "give us a chance to win." Tonight we definitely had a chance to win while Bush was in.

[uwisfan]

I'll take some solace in the amount the cubbies are needing to use their relievers this year. Marmol has pitched 6 games already (7 innings) and they are in extra innings once again.

[SeriesFinale]

Well, everything's coming up Milhouse elsewhere, for now at least. Cubs strike out twice with a man on 2nd to end their half of the 13th and Houston inches back in

[Pointer1VB]

Let's get these ERs out of our system tonight.

[bbaehman]

Patterson is killing the Crew

[uwisfan]

the adventure continues. Our entire outfield and pitching staff have looked foolish tonight.

[Pointer1VB]

And with that I think I'm out. It's almost 6 in the morning where I'm at and I want to get at least an hour of sleep before work.

[SeriesFinale]

Doo-be-do-be-doo....

[SeriesFinale]

Annnnd we're going to the 14th in Pittsburgh.

[tdeggie]

bullpen = ugly tonight, period

[bbaehman]

Can anyone throw strikes down 9-3?

[SoCal Brew Crew Fan]

Not trying to say the pitching was that great tonight, but our outfield D cost us 5 runs. Hart's 2-run error, Braun allows Philips to take second and he eventually scores and Gross' Canseco-esque play on Dunn's "homer". Bush was indeed sub-par with the walks, but the D did him no favors...and will the fans cut Turnbow some slack. He pitched pretty well last year until Ned burned him out.