Brewers Claim Jordan Lyles

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Brewers Claim Jordan Lyles

By Connor Byrne | August 5, 2018 at 11:20am CDT

 

The Brewers have claimed right-hander Jordan Lyles off waivers from the Padres, Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune tweets. San Diego has decided to let Lyles go, Acee adds.

 

More to come.

 

2018 Stats 2 4 4.29 24 8 0 71.1 62 1.26

 

27 Years old.

 

Kevin Acee

@sdutKevinAcee

7m7 minutes ago

Jordan Lyles will just beat the #Padres to Milwaukee. The #Brewers claimed the RHP off waivers and Padres letting him go. He just left Wrigley Field.

And Tyson Ross is going to pitch for the #Cardinals, who claimed him.

Padres looking toward giving prospects shots in rotation.

[jerichoholicninja]

Ok. To do what? Not sure he's an upgrade in the rotation or bullpen. Can he be sent down or does he have to go on the 25 man roster?

[JDBrewCrew]

Peralta will hit an innings limit. Maybe he goes to pen, Lyles to Rotation, Albers gone?

[jerichoholicninja]

Maybe but he's been a very below average pitcher his whole career. I would think Woodruff or Wilkerson would be "better" options.

[markedman5]

Don't think Wilkerson is a better option. My guess is he goes into the long man role in the pen to replace Albers or Barnes.

 

Probably want to keep Woodruff stretched out in case they need him to start.

[SRB]

He's only 27, has a cheap $3.5M option for 2019, and brings some flexibility as a Suter replacement.

 

3.91 xFIP as a starter this season: 47.0 IP, 7.7 K/9, 2.1 BB/9

[xisxisxis]

Maybe they thought they were claiming Tyson Ross and the person in the Brewers office that made the claim thought you spell Ross, L-Y-L-E-S....

 

Ughh... They should have been all over Tyson Ross and pass, pass, pass on Lyles... He's sucked every year except for this year and that is probably just the Petco effect...

[folly412]

Ross would have been a nicer freebie. Damn Cardinals. Suppose he's better than Albers and could start if needed. Just not sure it's better than bringing Woodruff or Houser up. We've had plenty of turds come through, but I'll never write a pitching acquisition off immediately with Johnson's overall track record.

[markedman5]

Maybe they thought they were claiming Tyson Ross and the person in the Brewers office that made the claim thought you spell Ross, L-Y-L-E-S....

 

Ughh... They should have been all over Tyson Ross and pass, pass, pass on Lyles... He's sucked every year except for this year and that is probably just the Petco effect...

 

Couldn't have been all over Ross since he never got to us.

[jerichoholicninja]

Take away April and May and batters are OPS'ing almost .800 against Ross. I'm fine with not getting him. Still confused about Lyles though.

[xisxisxis]

They're revocable waivers. If more than 1 team claims the player, the team can negotiate with ANY team for a trade, not the worst record. Looks like from the Tweet that they are just letting the players go ...

[jerichoholicninja]

Lyles OPS allowed:

 

Home: .632

Away: .866

[SRB]

Maybe they thought they were claiming Tyson Ross and the person in the Brewers office that made the claim thought you spell Ross, L-Y-L-E-S....

 

Ughh... They should have been all over Tyson Ross and pass, pass, pass on Lyles... He's sucked every year except for this year and that is probably just the Petco effect...

 

ZiPS RoS:

 

Lyles, 4.42 FIP

Ross, 4.73 FIP

Wilkerson, 4.89 FIP

 

post-injury Ross is not very good, and didn't fall to us anyways

[jerichoholicninja]

They're revocable waivers. If more than 1 team claims the player, the team can negotiate with ANY team for a trade, not the worst record. Looks like from the Tweet that they are just letting the players go ...

 

Pretty sure they can only negotiate with 1 team.

[SRB]

Yeah, the revocable/irrevocable distinction just means that on revocable waivers you can pull the guy back. It still goes team-by-team starting with the worst record.

[SRB]

Here's a FanGraphs article about Lyles working in some new pitches this season:

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/jordan-lyles-found-something-hes-never-had/

[xisxisxis]

Pretty sure they can only negotiate with 1 team.

 

I was googled again.... found a site that said they could negotiate with any of the claiming teams, but when looking at fangraphs and MLB it still goes in order of claim...

 

Lyles offers next to nothing beyond what we already have in the system so I don't understand the move...

[adambr2]

Pretty sure they can only negotiate with 1 team.

 

I was googled again.... found a site that said they could negotiate with any of the claiming teams, but when looking at fangraphs and MLB it still goes in order of claim...

 

Lyles offers next to nothing beyond what we already have in the system so I don't understand the move...

 

That wouldn't even make any sense, there would be no point of a July trade deadline as you could just claim anyone you wanted in August anyway and try to work out a trade for him.

 

I'm skeptical of Lyle, but maybe the scouting staff thinks he's turned a corner this year. He was once a pretty good prospect.

I'll trust the judgment of the guys who somehow got a decent starter out of Wade Miley.

[DuWayne Steurer]

This has to be a "we need some immediate depth" move. I just have a feeling Albers will be DL'd (I really don't think they'll DFA him), but like others have said, there's plenty of in house options that will be better. They might be thinking Johnson can work with him and unlock something, but man, that's a stretch. It's late in the season and we need every single win we can get. It's kinda late to be tinkering. Just me thinking out loud maybe.

[xisxisxis]

I'm skeptical of Lyle, but maybe the scouting staff thinks he's turned a corner this year. He was once a pretty good prospect.

I'll trust the judgment of the guys who somehow got a decent starter out of Wade Miley.

 

Do you think Wade Miley was never a good pitcher? Miley has had substantial success in the past so taking a chance on tweaking something to get him back to respectable isn't a stretch... Chances are much less that Lyles has anything they can "tweak" as he is pretty bad as a starter and he's been replacement level as a RP...

[AJOHNSON104]

Everybody seems to like Brent Suter.

His ERA was 4.44, FIP 4.50, WHIP 1.194, BB 1.7, SO 7.5.

Lyles - ERA 4.29, FIP 4.45, WHIP 1.262, BB 2.4, SO 7.8

 

Seems like pretty similar pitchers to me (at least for this season).

[xisxisxis]

Everybody seems to like Brent Suter.

 

Nope. There's one uber fan and a bunch of he's not bad fans here, and a ton of we need a better option than Suter... Nothing in that statement is close to being true...

[Cirilloing]

Im assuming this is purely for depth. Why not? We gave u nothing.

[SRB]

I'm skeptical of Lyle, but maybe the scouting staff thinks he's turned a corner this year. He was once a pretty good prospect.

I'll trust the judgment of the guys who somehow got a decent starter out of Wade Miley.

 

Do you think Wade Miley was never a good pitcher? Miley has had substantial success in the past so taking a chance on tweaking something to get him back to respectable isn't a stretch... Chances are much less that Lyles has anything they can "tweak" as he is pretty bad as a starter and he's been replacement level as a RP...

 

Lyles has had long stretches as a league average SP, and that's after being rushed to the majors in his early 20s and having to pitch in Houston and Colorado. That constitutes a "good" pitcher in my book, especially considering he's only going to be ask to be a long reliever or #5 starter who can eat some innings.

[AJOHNSON104]

Looks like he's owed $500k for the rest of this year. $50k to claim him and $250k buyout of his option means this costs Brewers a minimum of $800,000. Thats not much in baseball world, but still lots to pay for a guy that they don't plan to use much. Likely he sticks on roster for the rest of the year.