Game Thread (8/03/2022): Brewers (Peralta) at Pirates (Beede) - 6:05 PM CDT

[edfunderburk]

1 minute ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

Yesterday. Bush has been solid all season. I get the frustration though.

I believe Bush will be fine

Suter needs to go - McGee too

 

[wOOgiE22]

Last 5 deadline bullpen trades:

John Curtiss - bad, blew out arm

Daniel Norris - bad, let go

Matt Bush - tbd, didn’t look good tonight 

Dinelson Limet - dfa, never pitched

Taylor Rogers - tbd, fine tonight

 

Stearns track record for bullpen arms the last two deadlines is not proving stellar so far.  Last year was a failure and this year is tbd, but hasn’t started out well.

 

 

[phnxcrew]

It’s depressing for me that I didn’t even know watch yesterday or today after the trade deadline, just sending we’d collapse.  I hope it doesn’t continue.  the cardinals better at least thank us if they win the division with that awful roster (again)

[edfunderburk]

Like so many on this forum, I’ve watch thousands of Brewers games over the last 50 years 

This 2022 team - except on rare occasions - is hard to watch & isn’t very good 

I believe their record & standing is misleading 

Only in the horrid NL Central are they a potential playoff team 

I’m not sure they could win the AL Central - which is almost as bad

And … they may finish behind Baltimore in the AL East

I’m glad Packers Training Camp is underway 

I’m an avid baseball fan - I also love football … I need a change

The Packers seldom frustrate me like this Brewers team

 

[Jim French Stepstool]

5 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

I believe Bush will be fine

Suter needs to go - McGee too

 

McGee was lousy, had a few good outings here, then tonite. You may be right. I just find it hard to see Suter go while Counsell is manager.

But we got down to 2 catchers, so anything is possible.?

[wOOgiE22]

4 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

Like so many on this forum, I’ve watch thousands of Brewers games over the last 50 years 

This 2022 team - except on rare occasions - is hard to watch & isn’t very good 

I believe their record & standing is misleading 

Only in the horrid NL Central are they a potential playoff team 

I’m not sure they could win the AL Central - which is almost as bad

And … they may finish behind Baltimore in the AL East

I’m glad Packers Training Camp is underway 

I’m an avid baseball fan - I also love football … I need a change

The Packers seldom frustrate me like this Brewers team

 

The continual crash and burn in the playoffs doesn’t frustrate you?  Minus the Bucks finally breaking through, being a Wisconsin sports fan has been torturous lately. Great regular seasons and bow out in the playoffs. 

[sobomp3]

I don’t understand all of the “I hope they miss the playoffs” nonsense. Baseball is such a weird sport. All you need to do is make it year after year and you have a shot. See the Cardinals. Remember the 2019 Nationals?

3 times since the wild card was introduced has the best record won it all. It’s a crapshoot. You get hot and you’ve got a shot. I’m overjoyed we make the playoffs every year, now. Let’s keep it up. 

[edfunderburk]

6 hours ago, wOOgiE22 said:

The continual crash and burn in the playoffs doesn’t frustrate you?  Minus the Bucks finally breaking through, being a Wisconsin sports fan has been torturous lately. Great regular seasons and bow out in the playoffs. 

As I mentioned at the beginning of my rant … I am referring specifically to this 2022 team as being frustrating to watch

Yes, of course, I’m always disappointed in the playoffs when the Brewers & Packers bow out … but no recent team has been as difficult to cheer for as this team 

 

[SomewhereInTime]

30 minutes ago, wOOgiE22 said:

The continual crash and burn in the playoffs doesn’t frustrate you?  Minus the Bucks finally breaking through, being a Wisconsin sports fan has been torturous lately. Great regular seasons and bow out in the playoffs. 

Welcome to modern American sports where too many teams make the playoffs.  Baseball is now no different.  You're just probably going to see a lot of playoff losses for your teams when more than half the league or close to half the league gets in.

If you don't, you either have a dynasty of a team, or more likely just a god awful team.  You would probably not want to trade places with the Timberwolves, or Mariners, or Lions over the last 15 years or so.

[SomewhereInTime]

34 minutes ago, wOOgiE22 said:

The continual crash and burn in the playoffs doesn’t frustrate you?  Minus the Bucks finally breaking through, being a Wisconsin sports fan has been torturous lately. Great regular seasons and bow out in the playoffs. 

Also, if you're a fan of the Bucks as well as the Brewers, you don't really get to ***** and moan when the last time you saw a title was exactly a year ago.

[Jim French Stepstool]

15 minutes ago, SomewhereInTime said:

Welcome to modern American sports where too many teams make the playoffs.  Baseball is now no different.  You're just probably going to see a lot of playoff losses for your teams when more than half the league or close to half the league gets in.

If you don't, you either have a dynasty of a team, or more likely just a god awful team.  You would probably not want to trade places with the Timberwolves, or Mariners, or Lions over the last 15 years or so.

And it's most ill-fitted in baseball, I think.  You have almost twice the teams as you had in the late 50s, so there's no way you can go back to that system. But twelve is too many. I wouldn't want to live without TV & money, but this is proof that those things are a mixed blessing.

[brewcrewdue80]

56 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

But he’s going for the future in a rolling way. Not in the form of a complete tear down hoping to be competitive 4-5 years from now. 
 

The Brewers know that they can’t afford a string of 100 loss seasons and expect to keep enough fans in the seats to pay the bills. But winning 85-90 games (which now gives a team a pretty good shot at making the playoffs) while also keeping some familiar players for the fans to relate to will draw enough interest. 

I call BS on the whole money rebuild process. 100 losses isn't going to lose Milwaukee fans from returning when that rebuild emerges. What attendance they lose for 100losses they will recoup from having a 50ish mil payroll.  The risk is from missing your draft selections(Medeiros:Ray) and the return from the trades when blowing it up(ie Marlins for Yelich)  

If you take longer than you should to return to competitive baseball, that's when the Fandom will desert the Franchise. Oh plus the plea that a new Stadium is a must during that downtime.

[SomewhereInTime]

3 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

And it's most ill-fitted in baseball, I think.  You have almost twice the teams as you had in the late 50s, so there's no way you can go back to that system. But twelve is too many. I wouldn't want to live without TV & money, but this is proof that those things are a mixed blessing.

8 was fine, the 2 wild card change in 2012 was alright since you still had the same amount of teams getting into a series (and if anything it was better in that it made the division championship so much more important).  This new system has effectively made division chases meaningless.  You'll never have the same excitement as it was at the end of 2018.

[Pugger]

10 hours ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

McGee was lousy, had a few good outings here, then tonite. You may be right. I just find it hard to see Suter go while Counsell is manager.

But we got down to 2 catchers, so anything is possible.?

I heard Navarez got hurt..

 

[Pugger]

10 hours ago, sobomp3 said:

I don’t understand all of the “I hope they miss the playoffs” nonsense. Baseball is such a weird sport. All you need to do is make it year after year and you have a shot. See the Cardinals. Remember the 2019 Nationals?

3 times since the wild card was introduced has the best record won it all. It’s a crapshoot. You get hot and you’ve got a shot. I’m overjoyed we make the playoffs every year, now. Let’s keep it up. 

I just don't see this team doing much if they get in.  I might be wrong...

[wOOgiE22]

10 hours ago, SomewhereInTime said:

Also, if you're a fan of the Bucks as well as the Brewers, you don't really get to ***** and moan when the last time you saw a title was exactly a year ago.

Yeah I don’t really follow the Bucks or get into the NBA too much. I’m a college basketball guy anyway. Last title for one of my teams was the Packers in 2010/11.  I have learned to temper my expectations when the playoffs come through because it seems like the same thing every year. 

[yourout]

22 hours ago, wOOgiE22 said:

Last 5 deadline bullpen trades:

John Curtiss - bad, blew out arm

Daniel Norris - bad, let go

Matt Bush - tbd, didn’t look good tonight 

Dinelson Limet - dfa, never pitched

Taylor Rogers - tbd, fine tonight

 

Stearns track record for bullpen arms the last two deadlines is not proving stellar so far.  Last year was a failure and this year is tbd, but hasn’t started out well.

 

 

Stearns has done well with offseason and early season moves but his trade deadline record is not good.