Game Thread (8/14/2022): Brewers (Ashby) at Cardinals (Mikolas) - 1:15 PM CDT

[homer]

3 minutes ago, willie key said:

 

amd can people please please please never ever reference playoff odds again.     Those things are so wrong.   

I get what you're saying but if something is predicted to happen 60% of the time there is still a 40% chance it doesn't happen. 

[yourout]

To me the glaring hole that needed addressing at the deadline was CF.

Not sure what Reynolds would have cost us last year but he probably would have been worth it.

[DuWayne Steurer]

Taylor Rogers isn't a Loogy.  RHB have just over a .700 OPS off of him for his career, and (before today) like a .670 OPS vs him this season.  It probably wasn't the right choice letting him face Pujols under the circumstances, but he's not a LOOGY.

 

[willie key]

3 minutes ago, homer said:

I get what you're saying but if something is predicted to happen 60% of the time there is still a 40% chance it doesn't happen. 

Not when it’s predicted 95% of the time

[DuWayne Steurer]

The Brewers aren't going to (and absolutely shouldn't) start burning the service clock on an 18 year old to play CF in a season in which he's 1) going to be horribly over-matched and 2) probably going to struggle to win the division anyways.

Jackson Chourio isn't the difference between winning and losing the WS, so starting his service clock now would be a terrible and short-sighted decision. 

[rickh150]

People are complaining about Rodgers facing Pujols? Yet, no mention of having him face all righties and MVP 1a and 1B Goldshmidt and Pujols.  
 

[Sixtolezcano]

 

2 minutes ago, DuWayne Steurer said:

Taylor Rogers isn't a Loogy.  RHB have just over a .700 OPS off of him for his career, and (before today) like a .670 OPS vs him this season.  It probably wasn't the right choice letting him face Pujols under the circumstances, but he's not a LOOGY.

 

But there is one thing we all can agree on, he really blew this game.

[jason21nl]

1 minute ago, rickh150 said:

People are complaining about Rodgers facing Pujols? Yet, no mention of having him face all righties and MVP 1a and 1B Goldshmidt and Pujols.  
 

That shouldn’t have been his inning

[bulldogboy0733]

Just now, rickh150 said:

People are complaining about Rodgers facing Pujols? Yet, no mention of having him face all righties and MVP 1a and 1B Goldshmidt and Pujols.  
 

If Box was available it should have been his inning. Looking at the inning a lefty with a balky knee probably wasn't the best choice. 

[DuWayne Steurer]

1 minute ago, Sixtolezcano said:

 

But there is one thing we all can agree on, he really blew this game.

Won't argue with that. He didn't have it at all today.

[bulldogboy0733]

Just now, bulldogboy0733 said:

If Box was available it should have been his inning. Looking at the inning a lefty with a balky knee probably wasn't the best choice. 

That said another game where you only score three runs and none without a hr. The offense is why this team ain' t going anywhere.

[WV Brew]

Rodgers probably shouldn't be pitching at all with that bad knee.  That's on the Brewers for not doing their homework.

[bulldogboy0733]

Watched Counsell after the game and Sophia first question is how do you think Matt Bush looked this series?? Incredible stuff.

[nate82]

19 minutes ago, willie key said:

Not when it’s predicted 95% of the time

That is still not 100%.  Even at 95% there is a 5% chance of it not happening.  

[Jim French Stepstool]

26 minutes ago, bulldogboy0733 said:

How about Frelick?? Let the best players play I say.

Now THAT'S a breath of fresh air, as opposed to the notion that Chourio should be up here. I have no idea of the ramifications regarding super2 or arbitration or any of that because that stuff bores me to tears, but I believe they might be thinking about it. People need to understand though, he's not "replacing Davis". No way he comes up here to fill a bench role. His coming up would be more about Taylor.

[yourout]

23 minutes ago, DuWayne Steurer said:

Taylor Rogers isn't a Loogy.  RHB have just over a .700 OPS off of him for his career, and (before today) like a .670 OPS vs him this season.  It probably wasn't the right choice letting him face Pujols under the circumstances, but he's not a LOOGY.

 

This year his splits are pretty significant.

Righty BA-.264

WHIP-1.29 7HRs

, Leftys BA .209 WHIP 1.00 1HR.

[willie key]

4 minutes ago, nate82 said:

That is still not 100%.  Even at 95% there is a 5% chance of it not happening.  

I wonder what that 5% was that happened.    

[yourout]

12 minutes ago, bulldogboy0733 said:

Watched Counsell after the game and Sophia first question is how do you think Matt Bush looked this series?? Incredible stuff.

 

[Jim French Stepstool]

Looking at the matchups, Rogers in the eighth was more of a "he's our eighth inning guy" decision more than anything. Nootbaar, sure. But Carlson is better against LHP, and after that it was kinda a no-brainer. So not a good decision.

Don't know if there's a problem with Rogers' knee or not, as far as effectiveness is concerned. He was fine Saturday, so I'm not going to pile on about the knee.

[trwi7]

16 minutes ago, bulldogboy0733 said:

Watched Counsell after the game and Sophia first question is how do you think Matt Bush looked this series?? Incredible stuff.

She's employed by the Brewers.  It would be nice if she challenged team brass at all but it's understandable why she wouldn't.

[DuWayne Steurer]

6 minutes ago, yourout said:

This year his splits are pretty significant.

Righty BA-.264

WHIP-1.29 7HRs

, Leftys BA .209 WHIP 1.00 1HR.

Taylor Rogers had allowed 1 HR this year before today. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

7 minutes ago, yourout said:

This year his splits are pretty significant.

Righty BA-.264

WHIP-1.29 7HRs

, Leftys BA .209 WHIP 1.00 1HR.

JMO, but for me it's always about how the upcoming hitters perform vs LH or RH, rather than the pitchers "splits". But even then it didn't make a lot of sense once you got past Lars.

[yourout]

4 minutes ago, DuWayne Steurer said:

Taylor Rogers had allowed 1 HR this year before today. 

Oops that was HB not HR.

[Jim French Stepstool]

1 hour ago, Pugger said:

I'll never understand why Stearns and company didn't think we needed another bat.

I was as surprised/disappointed as anyone when they didn't add a bat at the deadline. But the only way I'm going to criticize that is if I know exactly what each available player would've cost in prospect capital, and would I have been OK with giving that cost in return for said player. Drury is a good example. He cost the #6 prospect in the SD system. No one knows what that equates to in our system, but a good guess would be maybe the #4 guy, maybe #5. I'm not doing that. It's reasonable to think Josh Bell would've cost more than that. Again, no thanks. This was a year where I think they would've been willing to package 3 or 4 guys in maybe the 12-25 range. In other years that gets it done. This year, there was a premium on the available guys so it took more. For my money, I'm not trading one of our top 8 or 10 guys for a rental. For someone like Soto, again, I'm not whining about it unless I know the exact cost.

[Jim French Stepstool]

2 hours ago, Sixtolezcano said:

The reason why the Brewers do is the quality of the batters on their major league roster.

No, actually the reason why they did (today) is because he's been leading off, and it makes no sense to take him out of that spot simply because he's DHing as opposed to playing LF. One can argue he needs a day off; he hasn't been good at the plate for 5-6 days now. But if he's playing, moving him elsewhere in the order makes little to no sense.