A's (Blackburn) vs Brewers (Teheran): 6/10/23, 3:10pm

[HarryDoyle]

[jay87shot]

I am officially on the fire the hitting coaches bandwagon. What a putrid showing, it's not like there was even quality pitching from the A's today. 

On top of that Counsil challenges an obvious catchers interference and than doesn't bunt Montasario in the 10th.

[Brewcrew82]

Honestly, when does Craig Counsell start to get the blame for our offensive ineptitude? If he's not going to be here next year, why not just move on now and try to jumpstart the team?

[yourout]

11 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

Trivia note.....Richard Hunt of Muppet fame is the guy on the shoulders.

He and Jim Henson both died to young. He was the voice of "Scooter', 'Janice', 'Sweetums' and a few others

 

[adambr2]

The Brewers have done something extremely difficult, take a team which has spent a great deal of time in 1st place the last 2 seasons and make it an utterly boring, unentertaining, unwatchable product. 

As far as I'm concerned, either sell the farm, open up the wallets and really go for it, or sell everyone of substance and gut this thing to the ground so we can just enjoy watching the prospects again because this perennial style of "don't rebuild, but don't really try to compete either, just cobble it all together and see what happens" is a disservice to the fans and a disservice to the franchise. Go 2011 or go 2015. But figure it out and stop trying to do both. 

[trwi7]

25 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

I am officially on the fire the hitting coaches bandwagon. What a putrid showing, it's not like there was even quality pitching from the A's today. 

On top of that Counsil challenges an obvious catchers interference and than doesn't bunt Montasario in the 10th.

We've done that,  When do the players and the front office who brings in these players start to get the blame?

[yourout]

4 minutes ago, trwi7 said:

We've done that,  When do the players and the front office who brings in these players start to get the blame?

While I wouldn't care if they jettisoned the hitting coaches I'm thoroughly convinced this has become a franchise problem starting at the top.

[treego14]

Turn the page!

[Jim French Stepstool]

2 hours ago, yourout said:

The old adage about just put the ball in play pays off for the A's in the extra innings.

Something the Brewers aren't capable of doing right now.

This game was sort of a microcosm. The 2-strike opposite field single by Peterson. The following hit-and-run dribbler by Diaz. In the 10th, Diaz keeps the bat back long enough to hit an off-speed pitch up the middle, that even if it didn't get through gets the ghost to 3rd with the first out of the inning. Three softly hit balls, but very brainy ABs. That was more than enough to beat the launch-angle, exit velocity celebration in the eighth. Then throw in Monasterio pulling a grounder to SS with the ghost on 2nd & no one out.

[brewmann04]

They have had a hitting coach in the past kept him and then fired him and then hired another coach and then added a second. How many coaches does this team need.  It not the Coach it not the manager it’s the players they are garbage. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

1 hour ago, yourout said:

While I wouldn't care if they jettisoned the hitting coaches I'm thoroughly convinced this has become a franchise problem starting at the top.

I would've been fine with Haines getting fired in-season, and I'd be fine with doing the same tomorrow. It's not about these guys being incompetent, or whether hitting coaches "matter". As frivolous as it sounds, it's about change for the sake of change. In the world of sports, that often works. Just a different voice, a different way of presenting the same message, even just the message that the status quo isn't acceptable.

Having said that, I've always had the suspicion----it's impossible to prove----that the minor-league hitting instruction is done on the cheap, that other organizations spend more in that area than we do. But even if true, that doesn't explain the struggles by guys from other teams.

[wiguy94]

11 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

This game was sort of a microcosm. The 2-strike opposite field single by Peterson. The following hit-and-run dribbler by Diaz. In the 10th, Diaz keeps the bat back long enough to hit an off-speed pitch up the middle, that even if it didn't get through gets the ghost to 3rd with the first out of the inning. Three softly hit balls, but very brainy ABs. That was more than enough to beat the launch-angle, exit velocity celebration in the eighth. Then throw in Monasterio pulling a grounder to SS with the ghost on 2nd & no one out.

Brewers have the 3rd lowest launch angle, the 5th lowest avg EV and the 8th lowest hard hit % in the MLB this season. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

5 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Brewers have the 3rd lowest launch angle, the 5th lowest avg EV and the 8th lowest hard hit % in the MLB this season. 

I'm insinuating that's an obsession in a lot of our ABs. Not claiming we're successful at it.

[wiguy94]

5 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

I'm insinuating that's an obsession in a lot of our ABs. Not claiming we're successful at it.

So the Brewers went from good at elevating the ball and hitting it hard last year to bad at both those things this year and you're saying the approach hasn't changed...seems convenient. 

Brewers have the 4th lowest pull % in the MLB in this season compared to the 12th highest last season. Brewers have the 24th highest flyball% this season compared to the 12th highest last season. So they are pulling the ball way less and hitting the ball in the air way less but the approach is the same!

[treego14]

We miss Hunter Renfroe!

We miss Garrett Mitchell!

We miss Esteury Ruiz!

We miss Keston Hiura!

[treego14]

[Jim French Stepstool]

1 hour ago, wiguy94 said:

So the Brewers went from good at elevating the ball and hitting it hard last year to bad at both those things this year and you're saying the approach hasn't changed...seems convenient. 

Brewers have the 4th lowest pull % in the MLB in this season compared to the 12th highest last season. Brewers have the 24th highest flyball% this season compared to the 12th highest last season. So they are pulling the ball way less and hitting the ball in the air way less but the approach is the same!

I'm truly sorry, I'm not following you. Not even thinking about a comparison to last season. Simply making a reference to reliance on the home run, which I believe has been a problem for a long time. Certainly, a lot of them have gone to the off field or to CF. The problem is when we need to find other ways to score.

The A's put up a few quality ABs at a crucial time. We did next to none of that. I saw two hit-and-run attempts, one from each team. Ours was grounded to the pull side. Not good.

Without looking at the numbers yeah, it's obvious to me we're going oppo much more than before. 

 

[treego14]

 

[BlightyBrew]

3 hours ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

I'm truly sorry, I'm not following you. Not even thinking about a comparison to last season. Simply making a reference to reliance on the home run, which I believe has been a problem for a long time. Certainly, a lot of them have gone to the off field or to CF. The problem is when we need to find other ways to score.

The A's put up a few quality ABs at a crucial time. We did next to none of that. I saw two hit-and-run attempts, one from each team. Ours was grounded to the pull side. Not good.

Without looking at the numbers yeah, it's obvious to me we're going oppo much more than before. 

 

I said it before on other topics but I think the main reason is the Crew K's way to much.  In the two games against Oakland we have had 19 innings with 20 K's.  That is 7.2 total innings of nothing but strikeouts.  The only weapon this team has is HR but we are only really hitting around NL average in HR this season.  The Crew are +1 above the NL average in HR, So it isn't that great of an offensive piece,  The Crew doesn't hit enough for average or get on base enough to make when we hit the HR meaningful over the course of 162 games.

The Crew are 14/15 in total runs; 14/15 in BA; 15/15 in SLG;14/15 in OPS+