Reds (Abbott) vs Brewers (Burnes): 7/25/23, 7:10pm

[Jim French Stepstool]

16 minutes ago, shanedog19 said:

Gotta give Winker a swing there at the end.

I was thinking the same thing, if it got to Monasterio. But apparently he's faced Diaz twice & never been retired. So I was OK with it.

[Bulldogboy]

26 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

If nothing else it was fun knowing that Reds fans were crapping bricks at the end. 
 

 

[Bulldogboy]

Why is Tyrone Taylor here?

[Slippery_Pete]

To pinch run.

[Jim French Stepstool]

2 hours ago, Bulldogboy said:

Oh by the way pick up a 3rd base coach at the deadline. 

I can guarantee you two things:

A) Jason Lane knew, as the play was unfolding, that the odds were that Monasterio was getting thrown out.

B) He also knew that there were two out, and Jahmai Jones, who had struck out all four trips this series, was the next hitter.

Given that knowledge, he went with the chance of a clean pickup, good throw, clean catch, another good throw, and a clean catch & tag might somewhere along the line get botched. Was it going to happen? probably not. But under the circumstances he made the right call IMO. I'm sure a lot of fans agree with you, just understand the stuff that goes into a decision like that.

[BruisedCrew]

5 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

I can guarantee you two things:

A) Jason Lane knew, as the play was unfolding, that the odds were that Monasterio was getting thrown out.

B) He also knew that there were two out, and Jahmai Jones, who had struck out all four trips this series, was the next hitter.

Given that knowledge, he went with the chance of a clean pickup, good throw, clean catch, another good throw, and a clean catch & tag might somewhere along the line get botched. Was it going to happen? probably not. But under the circumstances he made the right call IMO. I'm sure a lot of fans agree with you, just understand the stuff that goes into a decision like that.

I would add a third guarantee:

C. if Monasterio had been held, and Jones struck out, a lot of the same people criticizing the send would be saying “Had to send Monasterio”  

 

[wiguy94]

19 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

I can guarantee you two things:

A) Jason Lane knew, as the play was unfolding, that the odds were that Monasterio was getting thrown out.

B) He also knew that there were two out, and Jahmai Jones, who had struck out all four trips this series, was the next hitter.

Given that knowledge, he went with the chance of a clean pickup, good throw, clean catch, another good throw, and a clean catch & tag might somewhere along the line get botched. Was it going to happen? probably not. But under the circumstances he made the right call IMO. I'm sure a lot of fans agree with you, just understand the stuff that goes into a decision like that.

Initially I was mad at the send until I remembered Jones was up next. 

[jason21nl]

6 hours ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

I can guarantee you two things:

A) Jason Lane knew, as the play was unfolding, that the odds were that Monasterio was getting thrown out.

B) He also knew that there were two out, and Jahmai Jones, who had struck out all four trips this series, was the next hitter.

Given that knowledge, he went with the chance of a clean pickup, good throw, clean catch, another good throw, and a clean catch & tag might somewhere along the line get botched. Was it going to happen? probably not. But under the circumstances he made the right call IMO. I'm sure a lot of fans agree with you, just understand the stuff that goes into a decision like that.

That sounds like a lot but MLB players are expected to make defensive plays like that.  He was out by 20 feet.  That a terrible send.  Plus Lane has to allow us to be completely let down by the next batter.  
 

 

[Fear The Chorizo]

9 hours ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

I can guarantee you two things:

A) Jason Lane knew, as the play was unfolding, that the odds were that Monasterio was getting thrown out.

B) He also knew that there were two out, and Jahmai Jones, who had struck out all four trips this series, was the next hitter.

Given that knowledge, he went with the chance of a clean pickup, good throw, clean catch, another good throw, and a clean catch & tag might somewhere along the line get botched. Was it going to happen? probably not. But under the circumstances he made the right call IMO. I'm sure a lot of fans agree with you, just understand the stuff that goes into a decision like that.

Game situations and outs in an inning dictate those decisions so much - with two outs runners should be going full out on contact.  A double off the wall is a 100 percent send home in that situation, and there was nothing about the sequence to hold the runner at third.  He wasn't out by a mile - the relay throw shorthopped the catcher and he made a great play to smother the ball and grab it 1 count before Monastario came sliding into the plate.

With this team and at that spot in the game and lineup with two outs, it would have been a fireable offense not to send Monasario in that spot, IMO.  Sometimes you just tip your cap to the opponent making a great play.

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6 hours ago, jason21nl said:

That sounds like a lot but MLB players are expected to make defensive plays like that.  He was out by 20 feet.  That a terrible send.  Plus Lane has to allow us to be completely let down by the next batter.  
 

 

Yes, they are expected to. And they usually do. Like I said, he knew it was a gamble when he sent him. But one slip up in the chain of sequence & that 20 feet (it was probably less) can be covered in a second. Throw in the two outs & the next hitter, and it was understandable. One or no outs, or someone on deck who hadn't looked lost all series, then yeah, terrible.