Brewers (Burnes) vs Nationals (Irvin): 7/31/23, 6:05pm

[edfunderburk]

Another disappointing loss to a really bad team 

Atlanta makes complete sense

Losing to Washington with your ace on the mound reminds me of the losses to Oakland (3 x at home) 

I want to get excited & believe but I’m not sure this is our year 

Hopefully the new acquisitions & a few healthy additions from the IL will do the trick

This game felt very winnable 

[Sixtolezcano]

2 minutes ago, willie key said:

Yeah.      I think this is going to be an ugly finish again this year.    Probably third place.          We should finish ahead of cardinals though

That was my prediction at the beginning of the season, except I thought the Cards and Cubs would end up ahead of them.

[JefferyLeonard]

You guys just don't seem to get it. Why is the run differential negative? Very simple answer...the offense, the offense, the offense. The answer was never to sell, it was always to load up on bats. That should have started in the off season. Now they will go weakly into the off season simply because they NEVER EVER EVER get good bats in the off season, and they don't get good enough one's at the deadline. I honestly don't know how all of you do it, and stick with this team/organization every year when it's the same thing year after year after year. You all are very patient and truly dedicated fans, I have to hand it to you.

[brewers888]

1 minute ago, edfunderburk said:

Another disappointing loss to a really bad team 

Atlanta makes complete sense

Losing to Washington with your ace on the mound reminds me of the losses to Oakland (3 x at home) 

I want to get excited & believe but I’m not sure this is our year 

Hopefully the new acquisitions & a few healthy additions from the IL will do the trick

This game felt very winnable 

We have a negative run differential on the season which tells you this isn't a good team.

[Nola Beery]

Pathetic loss to a crummy team (shades of getting swept by the A's).   No upside to this. We ain't go no bats that we can rely on. Disssss-gusting.  

[brewers888]

1 minute ago, Nola Beery said:

Pathetic loss to a crummy team (shades of getting swept by the A's).   No upside to this. We ain't go no bats that we can rely on. Disssss-gusting.  

We also have a bullpen worn down due to never having any easy wins.

[yourout]

5 minutes ago, JefferyLeonard said:

You guys just don't seem to get it. Why is the run differential negative? Very simple answer...the offense, the offense, the offense. The answer was never to sell, it was always to load up on bats. That should have started in the off season. Now they will go weakly into the off season simply because they NEVER EVER EVER get good bats in the off season, and they don't get good enough one's at the deadline. I honestly don't know how all of you do it, and stick with this team/organization every year when it's the same thing year after year after year. You all are very patient and truly dedicated fans, I have to hand it to you.

I think it's bigger than that.....

[mtsportsfan]

2 minutes ago, JefferyLeonard said:

You guys just don't seem to get it. Why is the run differential negative? Very simple answer...the offense, the offense, the offense. The answer was never to sell, it was always to load up on bats. That should have started in the off season. Now they will go weakly into the off season simply because they NEVER EVER EVER get good bats in the off season, and they don't get good enough one's at the deadline. I honestly don't know how all of you do it, and stick with this team/organization every year when it's the same thing year after year after year. You all are very patient and truly dedicated fans, I have to hand it to you.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see that , been that way for years it seems , always trying for roster flexibility instead of solid hitters . just going to waste solid pitching that we have had over the last few years . will be different next year !

[Brock Beauchamp]

Just can't have these kind of losses at this point in the season. You're facing a really bad team with your ace on the mound. Need to log a W in that situation.

[willie key]

Has anyone mentioned the run differential yet?

[Nola Beery]

ALSO... you can't keep relying on even a better than average bullpen* to cover up for a consistent lack of hitting.

 

 

* Not saying we have a better than avg, bullpen.  :-/

[Pugger]

11 minutes ago, 82brewcrew82 said:

Very disappointing loss.  Very low energy effort.  Nationals played with more passion.  Took a little longer this year but this is not a good start to this stretch.

I suspect that Braves series took a lot of the starch out of the guys.  It ain't fun getting your head bashed in like that knowing you might have to face them again should you get into the playoffs later on and then get thrashed again.  

[brewers888]

2 minutes ago, mtsportsfan said:

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see that , been that way for years it seems , always trying for roster flexibility instead of solid hitters . just going to waste solid pitching that we have had over the last few years . will be different next year !

We definitely need our DH to be solid defensively.

[BruisedCrew]

19 minutes ago, JefferyLeonard said:

You guys just don't seem to get it. Why is the run differential negative? Very simple answer...the offense, the offense, the offense. The answer was never to sell, it was always to load up on bats. That should have started in the off season. Now they will go weakly into the off season simply because they NEVER EVER EVER get good bats in the off season, and they don't get good enough one's at the deadline. I honestly don't know how all of you do it, and stick with this team/organization every year when it's the same thing year after year after year. You all are very patient and truly dedicated fans, I have to hand it to you.

I think there are a lot of posters here that would disagree with you about patience. 

There are some who have been railing about the terrible offense from the off-season through today, and others that have complained about the first group for being too negative because the projections say the hitting is going to improve and the Brewers will win the division. 

[yourout]

Just now, Nola Beery said:

ALSO... you can' keep relying on even a better than average bullpen* to cover up for a consistent lack of hitting.

 

 

* Not saying we have a better than avg, bullpen.  :-/

I would say up until recently the bullpen has been one of the strengths of the team.

No way you can say that about the offense.

Defense has felt pretty average most of the season. Not great but not terrible.

[IntentionalHBP1]

Considering we can barely win with Burnes on the mound we should trade him away and we still have Woodruff in a week or so. 

[adambr2]

Remember the Brewer era when we kept asking why we had no pitching and they said, "Well, we have Prince Fielder and Ryan Braun."

[brewers888]

Have to say this team is great at run prevention. Guys like Turang and Wiemer prevent runs against us by being so good defensively and also prevent us from scoring by being such bad hitters.

[Pugger]

11 minutes ago, brewers888 said:

I'd be happy salvaging the future by getting a great deal for Burnes tomorrow.  

Sorry, but I just don't see Arnold and company being sellers right now, unfortunately.

[brewers888]

2 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

I think there are a lot of posters here that would disagree with you about patience. 

There are some who have been railing about the terrible offense from the off-season through today, and others that have have complained about the first group for being too negative because the projections say the hitting is going to improve and the Brewers will win the division. 

Its kind of strange that the analytics guys never mention our negative run differential when that tells a lot about this team.  

[mtsportsfan]

Just now, adambr2 said:

Remember the Brewer era when we kept asking why we had no pitching and they said, "Well, we have Prince Fielder and Ryan Braun."

I will say about that team , they were not boring like this one ! 

[brewers888]

5 minutes ago, Nola Beery said:

ALSO... you can' keep relying on even a better than average bullpen* to cover up for a consistent lack of hitting.

 

 

* Not saying we have a better than avg, bullpen.  :-/

We had an excellent top 3 relievers but thats fading away with overuse.

[Pugger]

3 minutes ago, brewers888 said:

Have to say this team is great at run prevention. Guys like Turang and Wiemer prevent runs against us by being so good defensively and also prevent us from scoring by being such bad hitters.

I don't know if I should laugh or cry...

[JefferyLeonard]

1 minute ago, brewers888 said:

Have to say this team is great at run prevention. Guys like Turang and Wiemer prevent runs against us by being so good defensively and also prevent us from scoring by being such bad hitters.

Ha, I was just going to say something to this effect. I mean, you have to keep trotting Weimer and Turang out there game after game because of that "run prevention". Even if they're hitting sucks. Or at least that's what the organization would tell you. The ELITE defense though! It's like a basketball player, he may not be able to guard a chair defensively but he's an ELITE scorer offensively, and more than makes up for his lousy defense. Huh, go figure. 

[rickh150]

1 minute ago, JefferyLeonard said:

You guys just don't seem to get it. Why is the run differential negative? Very simple answer...the offense, the offense, the offense. The answer was never to sell, it was always to load up on bats. That should have started in the off season. Now they will go weakly into the off season simply because they NEVER EVER EVER get good bats in the off season, and they don't get good enough one's at the deadline. I honestly don't know how all of you do it, and stick with this team/organization every year when it's the same thing year after year after year. You all are very patient and truly dedicated fans, I have to hand it to you.

Better for you to call it a fan career now, cuz I hate to tell you this…..we have been overachieving….yes… for the last 6 or 7 years, comparatively to other small market teams. We aren’t the Rays, but we have had it pretty good. Division championships, 2018 NLCS, 4 straight playoffs… no WS and frustrating playoff losses sure, but compared to 1983-2006ish, there is no comparison. 
Yes, I am frustrated with a few aspects of the team too, but perspective helps.