July 2025 MLB Draft - How Many Extra Picks?

[Jim Goulart]

Never too early, right?

 

[SF70]

And the way this team’s domestic draft department has been putting classes together the last 4 years, we could be looking at a class for the ages.

Even if we don’t get the PPI pick, 5 picks and $18M+ in pool money should give Johnson & co. the opportunity to stock the system with enough talent to keep the farm strong thru late this decade.

Incredible time to be a Brewers fan.

[biedergb]

Yeah. Even 3-5 “first” round selections is great to have the picks, but the money associated would allow a lot of creativity and allow to try to go after a tougher to sign picks.  
‘This year, only 4 picks in the top 100, is nice, but not likely as much a haul as last year.

But with building success in international market, and hopefully earning more picks to keep the prospect pipeline going. Definitely exciting. 

[SF70]

3 hours ago, biedergb said:

Yeah. Even 3-5 “first” round selections is great to have the picks, but the money associated would allow a lot of creativity and allow to try to go after a tougher to sign picks.  
‘This year, only 4 picks in the top 100, is nice, but not likely as much a haul as last year.

But with building success in international market, and hopefully earning more picks to keep the prospect pipeline going. Definitely exciting. 

The team has something special going on with their prospect procurement systems. A top 3 farm almost solely thru amateur prospect procurement skill. 

This bodes well moving forward because it allows for the retention of talent thru the 6-7 years vs having to sell-off after only 4-5-6 years of service.

[nate82]

While I love the enthusiasm for this we are going to need to pump the brakes a bit here.  While I would love 6 picks in the first round this doesn't really mean much if it is a bad draft talent wise. 

The top of the '25 draft class looks really good with Ethan Holliday (3B), Jace Laviolette (OF), Chase Shores (RHP), Xavier Neyens (1B/OF) and Seth Hernandez (RHP) each could be the #1 pick.  After that you have a bunch of early round draft picks but it is extremely hard to tell right now but those 5 would be at the top of the draft. 

What we would want to see is a lot of talent that are maybe mid 1st rounders looking for that mid 1st round signing bonus.  If there are plenty of those around then having those extra picks and money will help the Brewers get a better pick otherwise it maybe JUCO or HS prospects who should have went in the 1st round but didn't because of sign ability questions.  

[SF70]

21 minutes ago, nate82 said:

While I love the enthusiasm for this we are going to need to pump the brakes a bit here.  While I would love 6 picks in the first round this doesn't really mean much if it is a bad draft talent wise. 

The top of the '25 draft class looks really good with Ethan Holliday (3B), Jace Laviolette (OF), Chase Shores (RHP), Xavier Neyens (1B/OF) and Seth Hernandez (RHP) each could be the #1 pick.  After that you have a bunch of early round draft picks but it is extremely hard to tell right now but those 5 would be at the top of the draft. 

What we would want to see is a lot of talent that are maybe mid 1st rounders looking for that mid 1st round signing bonus.  If there are plenty of those around then having those extra picks and money will help the Brewers get a better pick otherwise it maybe JUCO or HS prospects who should have went in the 1st round but didn't because of sign ability questions.  

From what I’ve read the ‘25 draft appears to be an average class, unlike ‘24, which appears to be below average, and unlike ‘23, which was incredibly deep thanks to covid.

i’ll take an average class with this team’s skill in manipulating $18M in pool money. Last year proved their skill in that regard, and the previous 3 drafts ‘20-‘21’-‘22, showed they can put good classes together without high draft-picks.

 

[Playing Catch]

On 1/27/2024 at 3:41 PM, SF70 said:

From what I’ve read the ‘25 draft appears to be an average class, unlike ‘24, which appears to be below average, and unlike ‘23, which was incredibly deep thanks to covid.

i’ll take an average class with this team’s skill in manipulating $18M in pool money. Last year proved their skill in that regard, and the previous 3 drafts ‘20-‘21’-‘22, showed they can put good classes together without high draft-picks.

 

I'll be very interested to see if the Brewers can even come close to having another year like '23. If they do, then one has to believe they are doing something different scouting-wise than other teams.

[brewerfan82]

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January 2025 MLB Draft

 

Question: The draft is still being held mid-season, right? Or are they moving it to the offseason next year?

[SF70]

1 hour ago, Playing Catch said:

I'll be very interested to see if the Brewers can even come close to having another year like '23. If they do, then one has to believe they are doing something different scouting-wise than other teams.

Drafts in ‘24 & ‘25 that approach the ‘23 class in strength will take this team’s system to an Orioles-level system and give us the best young Organizational talent in the NL, even more than Cincinnati.

We already should have more pool money in the ‘24 class than Johnson and Co. have ever had. If we get picks for Adames & Hoskins and they sign for $50M+ that could get us near $16M in pool money for ‘25.

This could get really interesting.

[biedergb]

6 hours ago, brewerfan82 said:

 

Question: The draft is still being held mid-season, right? Or are they moving it to the offseason next year?

I was confused by that too. I believe the draft will stay in July.

As far as the title, I'm guessing it's like the "January discussion of 2025 draft" but I may be wrong

[Jim Goulart]

10 hours ago, biedergb said:

I was confused by that too. I believe the draft will stay in July.

As far as the title, I'm guessing it's like the "January discussion of 2025 draft" but I may be wrong

Thanks, adjusted things best I could.

[BrewerFan]

On 1/27/2024 at 2:49 PM, nate82 said:

While I love the enthusiasm for this we are going to need to pump the brakes a bit here.  While I would love 6 picks in the first round this doesn't really mean much if it is a bad draft talent wise. 

The top of the '25 draft class looks really good with Ethan Holliday (3B), Jace Laviolette (OF), Chase Shores (RHP), Xavier Neyens (1B/OF) and Seth Hernandez (RHP) each could be the #1 pick.  After that you have a bunch of early round draft picks but it is extremely hard to tell right now but those 5 would be at the top of the draft. 

It's the MLB draft. I feel like a good draft vs an average or below average draft is largely based on the top of the draft.

Combine that and the volatility of assessing Sophomore's in HS(not Jrs, but haven't really hit the circuit yet) and I'll bet many of the drafts that look like they're lesser drafts a couple years out change very quickly and have produced as much talent after the top half of the 1st round as any other draft. 

Even if it is a bad draft, there are still a LOT of guys who'll have plenty of value.

 

So hit the gas, talk about how many picks we could get. Lets throw in the potential for Tyler Black to pair up with Chourio and both become top 3 in ROY voting and add another pick(to make up for Burnes now). 

However the draft is viewed, I trust this organization to squeeze the most out of it!

[wiguy94]

12 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

It's the MLB draft. I feel like a good draft vs an average or below average draft is largely based on the top of the draft.

Combine that and the volatility of assessing Sophomore's in HS(not Jrs, but haven't really hit the circuit yet) and I'll bet many of the drafts that look like they're lesser drafts a couple years out change very quickly and have produced as much talent after the top half of the 1st round as any other draft. 

Even if it is a bad draft, there are still a LOT of guys who'll have plenty of value.

 

So hit the gas, talk about how many picks we could get. Lets throw in the potential for Tyler Black to pair up with Chourio and both become top 3 in ROY voting and add another pick(to make up for Burnes now). 

However the draft is viewed, I trust this organization to squeeze the most out of it!

FYI you need to win the ROY to get the extra pick not finish top 3.

[BrewerFan]

3 hours ago, wiguy94 said:

FYI you need to win the ROY to get the extra pick not finish top 3.

Ok...I thought it was originally going to be an international pick, but since they didn't agree on the international draft, they kept it as top 3 earned a comp pick. Apparently I was mistaken?

So then I guess...lets hope Black finishes top 3 in MVP, but Chourio beats him in ROY😁

[wiguy94]

17 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

Ok...I thought it was originally going to be an international pick, but since they didn't agree on the international draft, they kept it as top 3 earned a comp pick. Apparently I was mistaken?

So then I guess...lets hope Black finishes top 3 in MVP, but Chourio beats him in ROY😁

Pretty sure you can only get 1 PPI pick per season as well, but I'm not 100% sure on that.

[BrewerFan]

13 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Pretty sure you can only get 1 PPI pick per season as well, but I'm not 100% sure on that.

Ok...I'm still behind on this(obviously). I was apparently operating under the '22 CBA negotiations before it was even finalized.

I wasn't actually expecting multiple ROY comp picks either way, it was more kinda kidding, but I feel like if you really want to incentivize promoting prospects...then you should reward the top 3 or even top 5. A few tweaks would make sense. The top 100 list should also be changed IMO. Make it the top 150 or top 200. I get top 100 is the industry standard, but a lot of good players aren't going to be included. An Abner Uribe type wouldn't likely qualify as a reliever only. 

In ANY event, I love how the Brewers are positioned with the additional draft pick compensation they already have and are expected to have. The more Cooper Pratt, Eric Bitonti type picks they're able to make, going after prep prospects, the better. I also think(or at least hope) it'll open them up a little more to taking more prep pitching prospects. The miss rate is high, but it's also where the best prospects generally come from.

[Jim Goulart]

This is why it's a crime that Yamamoto is eligible for Rookie of the Year. If Yamamoto wins, he doesn't net the Dodgers a pick. But it would block Chourio from earning the Brewers a pick if he finishes 2nd behind the Japanese import.

[nate82]

37 minutes ago, Mass Haas said:

This is why it's a crime that Yamamoto is eligible for Rookie of the Year. If Yamamoto wins, he doesn't net the Dodgers a pick. But it would block Chourio from earning the Brewers a pick if he finishes 2nd behind the Japanese import.

Positional players tend to have an edge over pitchers in ROY voting.  It takes a really special season by a pitcher to win ROY or the positional players are absolutely garbage. 

Of the last 10 NL ROY winners 8 have been positional players and only 2 have been pitchers (Williams 2020 and DeGrom 2014).  If you include the AL ROY winners it is only 1 more (Fulmer 2016). 

Going even further back to 2000 a total of 12 have been pitchers and if you want to include Ohtani then 13.  The vast majority of the time it is going to be a positional player than it will be a pitcher.  I am not all that worried about Yamamoto winning the NL ROY as he would have to put up something close to what DeGrom or Fernandez did to win it.