Game 5: Bengals @ Packers - Sunday, Oct 12 3:25 PM

[Sixtolezcano]

On 10/13/2025 at 10:57 AM, homer said:

Yeah mental fart from Love.

I didn't mind the pass but I'd rather they spread the formation. I don't know if it was an RPO but if not that was dumb.

How many mental farts are going to occur before “Love gets it”. The Packers finally have a game where the run gets going, and throwing a pass deep in Bengal territory after Love screwed the pooch on the previous play just doesn’t make an iota of sense. Even if the Bengal defense stops the run they can still attempt the FG. Whether MLF screwed up calling a pass or Love elected to throw is a terrible rookie mistake, and should never happen with a NFL team with a 6th year QB and a 7th year head coach who supposedly is an offensive genius.

[homer]

1 hour ago, Sixtolezcano said:

How many mental farts are going to occur before “Love gets it”. The Packers finally have a game where the run gets going, and throwing a pass deep in Bengal territory after Love screwed the pooch on the previous play just doesn’t make an iota of sense. Even if the Bengal defense stops the run they can still attempt the FG. Whether MLF screwed up calling a pass or Love elected to throw is a terrible rookie mistake, and should never happen with a NFL team with a 6th year QB and a 7th year head coach who supposedly is an offensive genius.

Love is having a good year. 

[CheezWizHed]

8 hours ago, homer said:

Love is having a good year. 

Yet, there is still something missing.  Dude puts up a lot of good numbers, but his situational awareness - especially when under pressure (blitzes, 2 min drill, etc..) is still severely lacking.  I was talking with a coworker about whether that is a skill that QBs have (or don't) or if it can be learned. 

[yourout]

1 hour ago, CheezWizHed said:

Yet, there is still something missing.  Dude puts up a lot of good numbers, but his situational awareness - especially when under pressure (blitzes, 2 min drill, etc..) is still severely lacking.  I was talking with a coworker about whether that is a skill that QBs have (or don't) or if it can be learned. 

I'm sure it can be improved but the elite guys have it almost as soon as they enter the league..

[BrewerFan]

6 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

Yet, there is still something missing.  Dude puts up a lot of good numbers, but his situational awareness - especially when under pressure (blitzes, 2 min drill, etc..) is still severely lacking.  I was talking with a coworker about whether that is a skill that QBs have (or don't) or if it can be learned. 

It can clearly come and go...

He was under pressure on some of the biggest throws down the stretch two years ago... or just on some of his best plays as a Packer. 

But being "under pressure" doesn't really tell you much. When the Tackles are running the DE's 10 yards deep and the pressure is coming up the middle, he's been good. 

When the pressure DE's are dipping under the OTs and making Love escape the pocket... I'd imagine he's not much different than most QBs. 

Something is missing from the entire offense. A couple weak spots on the OL. Banks has not been worth that FA contract(they MAY get out of that one just 1 year in. Jenkins is starting to play much better, but then right next to him, Rhyan is absolutely terrible. 

Last year it was Myers. 

Tom is... alright(at this point) but he's not playing healthy out there. 

 

 

Rodgers is the only QB I saw who could almost elevate his play with a poor OL. He got the ball out quickly, on time, let the WRs make plays with the ball. Same could be said when he was banged up. That strained calf or the knee injury(namely vs the Bears). ;

 

Good news- There's no great team in the NFL. 
The Packers have jumped out to two score leads in every single game.
Bad news-They've allowed the other team to make it a 1 score game in 4 of those 5 and then come back and win one and tie another. 

Also, good news, Belton is a solid rookie. Not great, but pretty good. He's also massive upgrade on Rhyan. 

Watson looks to be coming back. That should open up the field. 

 

Bad news-They just look like they're taking their foot off the gas and letting average teams back in the games when they should be putting them away. 

There are reasons. The Browns have the best DL. 
The Bengals have extraordinary WRs. 
The Cowboys... well, I got no reason for that one. 

 

Tom and Walker-Need to take the inside away and give Love time to move around in the pocket and the IOL needs to create lanes for Love to step up and throw. 

 

Still, 3-1-1 and 2nd in the NFC and this has been a REALLY average last month and they should have time to get healthy and get back the two main additions. 

-Also, the turnovers will come. Last year we were lucky and created the most or 2nd most turnovers. 
This year... we've got virtually none.

 

I don't see much coming in the way of help though. Not where we need it. We're not trading a 3rd for McCreary and trading for an OL? maybe LInderbaum if the Ravens keep losing since they're not re-signing him. I'd give up a 2nd for him if we get a 48 hour window to extend him, but... I doubt that'll happen. And it'd just replace Banks or Jenkins cap hits in 2026 or if they find a way to extend Jenkins, in 2027+. 

[CheezWizHed]

2 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

It can clearly come and go...

He was under pressure on some of the biggest throws down the stretch two years ago... or just on some of his best plays as a Packer. 

But being "under pressure" doesn't really tell you much. When the Tackles are running the DE's 10 yards deep and the pressure is coming up the middle, he's been good. 

When the pressure DE's are dipping under the OTs and making Love escape the pocket... I'd imagine he's not much different than most QBs. 

Something is missing from the entire offense. A couple weak spots on the OL. Banks has not been worth that FA contract(they MAY get out of that one just 1 year in. Jenkins is starting to play much better, but then right next to him, Rhyan is absolutely terrible. 

Last year it was Myers. 

Tom is... alright(at this point) but he's not playing healthy out there. 

 

 

Rodgers is the only QB I saw who could almost elevate his play with a poor OL. He got the ball out quickly, on time, let the WRs make plays with the ball. Same could be said when he was banged up. That strained calf or the knee injury(namely vs the Bears). ;

 

Good news- There's no great team in the NFL. 
The Packers have jumped out to two score leads in every single game.
Bad news-They've allowed the other team to make it a 1 score game in 4 of those 5 and then come back and win one and tie another. 

Also, good news, Belton is a solid rookie. Not great, but pretty good. He's also massive upgrade on Rhyan. 

Watson looks to be coming back. That should open up the field. 

 

Bad news-They just look like they're taking their foot off the gas and letting average teams back in the games when they should be putting them away. 

There are reasons. The Browns have the best DL. 
The Bengals have extraordinary WRs. 
The Cowboys... well, I got no reason for that one. 

 

Tom and Walker-Need to take the inside away and give Love time to move around in the pocket and the IOL needs to create lanes for Love to step up and throw. 

 

Still, 3-1-1 and 2nd in the NFC and this has been a REALLY average last month and they should have time to get healthy and get back the two main additions. 

-Also, the turnovers will come. Last year we were lucky and created the most or 2nd most turnovers. 
This year... we've got virtually none.

 

I don't see much coming in the way of help though. Not where we need it. We're not trading a 3rd for McCreary and trading for an OL? maybe LInderbaum if the Ravens keep losing since they're not re-signing him. I'd give up a 2nd for him if we get a 48 hour window to extend him, but... I doubt that'll happen. And it'd just replace Banks or Jenkins cap hits in 2026 or if they find a way to extend Jenkins, in 2027+. 

By pressure, I mostly mean time pressure: 

• I have pretty low confidence when he has to run a 2 min drill.  He does fine when he has plenty of time to setup things, but he doesn't manage time well.  The number of TOs we use when we run out of play clock is another indicator of that.
• In play adjustments.  When he gets to the LOS and someone has a defense setup too well for the play call we have (i.e. overload blitzes), he doesn't adjust that well to them.  No changing protections to cover the extra person, no getting a receiver into a vacated area or hot route. He often seems surprised by blitzes getting on him right away...some of that is the OL not playing well, but some of it recognizing you are in trouble by the look you are getting on D.
• His interceptions tend to come in one of two fashions: a tipped ball (not his fault) or a REALLY bad decision when he gets surprised by a blitz.  He just needs to know that certain times, you need to throw the ball away or just eat it.  This isn't a huge problem for Love, but just another indicator that he isn't a great "think on your feet" type QB. 

Love is HOF good when he has plays setup and time to throw - the clean pockets.  But the ability to improvise and handle a lot of things at once just don't seem to be his strengths (i.e. where good QBs become HOF QBs). 

I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that MLF makes Love look good (i.e. mostly good play calls and scripting WRs/TEs open for him), but Love makes MLF look bad with the lack of on-field adjustments and time management. 

I'm not saying MLF is perfect, but I think a lot of the complaints we have about him are more on Love. 

[homer]

I think the timeouts are on MLF. He is always burning them early.

[CheezWizHed]

2 hours ago, homer said:

I think the timeouts are on MLF. He is always burning them early.

I'm specifically referring to the "play clock is about to run out" Time Outs.  That doesn't account for all of MLF's early TO usage, but quite a few of them.