Dodgers (Yamamoto) vs Brewers (Peralta): 10/14/25, 7:08pm

[wiguy94]

3 hours ago, HarveysWBs said:

Yeah, I keep trying to hope that the Dodgers winning a title and then making even more huge signings (Yamamoto 12 years, $325 mil plus a $50mil signing fee to the Orix Buffaloes, signaling their intention to basically turn all of Japan into their own private talent farm) would be such an offensive financial decision that even the Yankees would balk and start demanding structural changes. Remains to be seen.

EDIT: nvm, forgot Yamamoto was signed going into 2024, not this year. Losing a grip on the facts.

With Muncy getting up there in age and the big Japanese posting this offseason being a 3B, we probably will see the Dodgers throw out a huge contract for him. It's just not the same sport that us and the Dodgers play.

[brewcrewdue80]

3 hours ago, jason21nl said:

It’s truly laughable that we have to go to a guy like Collins as a PHer

Collins at 1 point was top 5 in Roy.  I've been trying figure a reason he's slumping. He was starting then August he didnt a few games, then September  I see he didnt start 5 of the games. He was above 800 OPS finished 770s i think I seen. Perkins and Bauers kinda curtailed his everyday play.

Overall you take your starting 9 and 6 of them are below 600 OPS. Turang, Frelick, Yelich shockingly. Durbin, of course Ortiz below 400 OPS.  They have had terrible swings at balls costings some walks.

[HarryDoyle]

Man, barely made it to first pitch and was too tired to watch the game. Glad I missed this one too. What a pathetic showing by this team. Just get swept and be put out of our misery.

[adambr2]

Well, all we can do now is go out on Thursday and try to win a baseball game. Do I think we will, no, probably not, but just one game. If you do you’re in the closest position that the trailing team can be after any Game 3.

[MrTPlush]

7 hours ago, Cool Hand Lucroy said:

The economic structure of baseball is unfair. Mark A could also spend quite a bit more on payroll. He's pouring cash into Benfica and Norwich over in Europe, so the investment capital is clearly there. I don't blame him for spending it on a sport with a big potential growth market. He's still an excellent Brewers owner. But it's not entirely on MLB that the payrolls here are so imbalanced.

It really is as simple as win one game. That's it. Put the pressure on them and see how they respond. They probably do and will respond. But we were up 2-0 in a shorter series, lost a nailbiter in Game 3 and then really needed some nails performances from the bullpen to win Game 5. It doesn't matter if the team wins the series. Just win once and take your shot at bringing the series back to Milwaukee.

MA could do more, but MLB is the reason he doesn’t. We could spend another 50mil (probably well beyond anything we could do) and still it would barely move the needle. That’s the issue. There is no motivation to spend past what it takes to win the division and roll the dice in the postseason.

The Dodgers can waste $300mil a year to choke 4/5 years because their bottom line is still exponentially more green than a small market team not even trying to spend money. That is crazy.

[torts]

When the only weakness is the bullpen, it's hard to win when their aces protect them.  Here hoping glasnow starts game 3!

[OldSchoolSnapper]

The Brewers approach at the plate wouldn't have made a lick of difference against Snell. He wasn't throwing any balls. Their patience would have resulted in looking Ks. I would argue that trying to hit the ball early in the count was the right move, they just couldn't do it. 

[RWeeksFan23]

9 hours ago, RobertCrawley said:

Better, but considerably?

 

not gonna lie, I would have thought Yelich would have had Braun beat in some of these main stats.

[RWeeksFan23]

9 hours ago, adambr2 said:

1 inning of the Dodger bullpen that we saw in 2 games. 1 inning. 

That is sad.

 

hopefully their relievers will be rusty now when we face them in LA lol

[RWeeksFan23]

8 hours ago, Cool Hand Lucroy said:

Low-key, I've thought Durbin has been a big key for us. He was good at third tonight, but his first two ABs included six pitches. All strikes. For the woodpecker thing to work, that dude has to see pitches. 

I might be tempted to start Lockridge on Thursday just because he leads the world in pitches seen.

To me the book on Durbin is jam him inside with fastballs off the plate and he'll chase them. 

Durbin's gotta realize how pitchers are attacking him.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

14 minutes ago, RWeeksFan23 said:

not gonna lie, I would have thought Yelich would have had Braun beat in some of these main stats.

Completely unscientific, but if you asked me who I want at the plate with 2 outs, bases loaded in the bottom of the 9th in October, it's Braun and I don't need 2 seconds to think.

[HarryDoyle]

14 minutes ago, RWeeksFan23 said:

hopefully their relievers will be rusty now when we face them in LA lol

What makes you think we will?

[BarremlensTSSC]

Really enjoyed the bottom of the 1st inning!

Couldn't deal last night, stayed off line for the most part, and when it went 4-1 I put the game on the laptop and flipped the TV to the USMNT match against Australia.

Not much fun to be had after the 1st.

[BarremlensTSSC]

1 hour ago, MrTPlush said:

MA could do more, but MLB is the reason he doesn’t. We could spend another 50mil (probably well beyond anything we could do) and still it would barely move the needle. That’s the issue. There is no motivation to spend past what it takes to win the division and roll the dice in the postseason.

The Dodgers can waste $300mil a year to choke 4/5 years because their bottom line is still exponentially more green than a small market team not even trying to spend money. That is crazy.

First paragraph is probably pretty accurate, except I think they actually could do another $50 million without that much difficulty most years.  The Bally disaster didn't help and I doubt they've made all that money back from the new deal.  But I tend to agree that even assuming that's correct the incentive to get to $160 million payroll is pretty low when the reality is that doesn't make them any more likely/able to land an elite bat or a #1 starter in free agency.  Where it might matter is in the retention of their own players as they near free agency. (Like Contreras, for example.)

Honestly I suspect what they'll never admit is that they went into this season anticipating that they'd take a step back and that it was a transition year in the rotation while a handful of pitchers continued to develop and that as a result (and the flux in the RSN market and the TV deal) the incentive to add payroll was even lower than usual leading into the 2025 season.  Unfortunately that is likely to continue this offseason with a lockout looming in 2027.  Attanasio, and other small and midmarket owners, are probably likely to try to minimize big cash outlays in the next 18 months if, as seems likely, they're anticipating lost games and lost revenue at the start of the 2027 season.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

42 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

What makes you think we will?

It's down to one thing, really. Our pitching held up for the most part to keep us in these games. But our moneyball offense never had a chance because the Dodgers SP just had too good of command. There was no opportunity to be patient because they simply never stopped throwing strikes. They turned us into a hack-a-thon which wasn't going to end well for us. And that is the difference when $800 million can buy you a handful of guys who simply don't miss. The fringe arms never had to step on the field in a playoff series. That's who loses most of their games.

We basically need someone really good to have a bad day.

[StearnsFTW]

10 hours ago, RobertCrawley said:

Better, but considerably?

 

Yeah, Yelich is the better player. 

Plus, juicer.  Obviously.

[MrTPlush]

2 hours ago, torts said:

When the only weakness is the bullpen, it's hard to win when their aces protect them.  Here hoping glasnow starts game 3!

If that is the case, wouldn’t you want Ohtani? The best case scenario is 6 innings for him. Not that Game 2’s flailing wouldn’t give him a chance at 7…but Ohtani is the best chance at 4-6 and he is gone.

[MrTPlush]

10 hours ago, RobertCrawley said:

Better, but considerably?

 

Ironically they are pretty similar careers. A few massive years, some AS years, and then a flury of average years.

I think Braun is still better. Yelich greatly benefits from the DH existence and Braun didn’t. Braun also did seem to be a little more trusty in clutch spots…even ignoring this postseason.
 

Though if you take into consideration the likelihood of Braun cheating much of his early career to stay healthy and on the field it’s a bit of a wash between the two.

[Fear The Chorizo]

4 minutes ago, MrTPlush said:

If that is the case, wouldn’t you want Ohtani? The best case scenario is 6 innings for him. Not that Game 2’s flailing wouldn’t give him a chance at 7…but Ohtani is the best chance at 4-6 and he is gone.

Glasnow can get a little wild, too - but yeah at some point the Brewers have to put some stress on the Dodger staff.

Yamamoto has been on a good start/bad start roll for himself the last month and a half, and unfortunately that trend continued last night.

When these starters are throwing strikes and commanding their stuff, only Skubal can be more dominant and even that is debatable 

[torts]

21 minutes ago, MrTPlush said:

If that is the case, wouldn’t you want Ohtani? The best case scenario is 6 innings for him. Not that Game 2’s flailing wouldn’t give him a chance at 7…but Ohtani is the best chance at 4-6 and he is gone.

Yeah I honestly don't care which of the two, just that they both start games 3 and 4 so we can force a game 5 and hopeful return to Milwaukee 

[torts]

Also!  Pedro LOVES us!!  He was defending us last night after the loss!  Granderson was essentially saying we looked lost, but Pedro cut him off and said we didn't look lost, we did what we do at the plate, we just got masterfully pitched to for two days straight.  If someone is on fire like that, there's just not much you can do.  It was so great to hear him push back on the attempt to create the narrative that were choking

[duewizard]

I highly doubt we take the series. It would be nice to not get swept.

We just got outclassed. Dodgers pitching was crazy good and their bats did jut enough in the early innings to put us in a hole.

I just ask that they keep it competitive. Have good AB's, dont blow up. Give them a show

[treego14]

20 minutes ago, duewizard said:

I highly doubt we take the series. It would be nice to not get swept.

Mathematically speaking, we have only an 18.75% chance of winning this series down 0-2.  This assumes that each game is a 50-50 win proposition.

[BarremlensTSSC]

1 hour ago, duewizard said:

I highly doubt we take the series. It would be nice to not get swept.

We just got outclassed. Dodgers pitching was crazy good and their bats did jut enough in the early innings to put us in a hole.

I just ask that they keep it competitive. Have good AB's, dont blow up. Give them a show

Only quibble I had is that I think they had a shot to get to Yamamoto early.  They chased a lot of pitches in the first couple of innings before he settled in, and as noted above I wasn't watching every pitch after the 5th.  Be nice to get game 3 and have some fun.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

1 hour ago, treego14 said:

Mathematically speaking, we have only an 18.75% chance of winning this series down 0-2.  This assumes that each game is a 50-50 win proposition.

Realistically much lower. I am not forking this just yet. There is a lot of ball left and weird things happen all the time. Very meh Dbacks team was in this position just a couple years ago (although they were headed back home) and ended up advancing past Philly. 

3-0 is a death sentence, 2-0 is trouble, but you're not dead just yet.