Harrison Extension

[JCREW]

3 hours ago, Outlander said:

Low key it is good that the Brewers can't hold onto Burnes, Adames, Williams, Peralta, Contreras, Turang. They really could be worse off if they paid their guys long term.

This is true. 

At the same time, I mourn the idea that my kids will probably never witness anything like Robin Yount. Maybe it's worth re-extending Chourio someday soon. The trend away from single-team, whole-career superstars sucks, and it is made more of a certainty in the current system. 

[TwinsBrewersWorldSeries]

4 minutes ago, liveforoctober said:

That's the forever dance. Which guys are worth rolling the dice on AND are those players willing to cash in early. The Brewers just took a pretty decent leap of faith with Pratt. It seems we 'guessed' correctly on Chourio. We likely have missed the boat on Turang and Miz and possibly Made.

So back to your original topic and proposal ... are we sure about Harrison after 50+ innings? Are you ready to commit that much financially before the league has had a chance to adjust and figure his new self out? Is the payoff of having him for an extra year worth the tighter financial space that puts us in while we are competing the next 2-3 years?

I think it really depends on the dollar amount.  I think some of the comments in the thread (as well as the tough loss of a season for QP) are a cautionary tale to tap the brakes.  There are others that are far better at projecting the Arby Years than I...

A deal to just buy out the arby years doesn't seem to make sense for the club perspective.  Why take on injury risk and opportunity cost that could go south with an injury, or the potential for inconsistent performance.  On the other hand, while its annoying to have $20M+ tied up in Woody this year with his injuries, the potential for "playoff ace" Woody on a one-year commitment at that price seemed to be worth the risk.

So for Harrison, if we assume $1M, $4M, $8M, $12M (assuming he performs well), that is $25M over the next 4 for the club (assuming year to year).  I still think that 5th year for us (would be 2031), could have some excess value if this keeps up, but probably not enough excess value over 2 years compared to what it would cost us to get him to sign...  So maybe you split the difference and offer $25M over the 4 years, with a team option ($5 million buyout or $20 million salary) to make it either 4/30, or 5/45 if you think that 2031 could be a "go for it year"...   

If our goal is to be competitive every year, with maybe a 1-2 year "go for it"" window every 5-6, maybe it isn't worth it in the same way it would be if adding the 5th year would have been in 2028 or 2029.

All that said, if we have QP this deal (mid-season), and now he'd be likely missing this entire season with the potential for no season in 2027, and I wouldn't feel great about paying for 2 seasons without getting any real production.

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22 minutes ago, JCREW said:

This is true. 

At the same time, I mourn the idea that my kids will probably never witness anything like Robin Yount. Maybe it's worth re-extending Chourio someday soon. The trend away from single-team, whole-career superstars sucks, and it is made more of a certainty in the current system. 

I think the hope is that they always keep around one guy. Braun was that guy for the 2010's. Yelich is that guy for the 2020's. Maybe Chourio will be that guy for the 2030's. I was kind of hoping Turang could be that guy but the longer he goes without an extension the more unlikely I think one would be.

[Underachiever]

1 hour ago, JCREW said:

This is true. 

At the same time, I mourn the idea that my kids will probably never witness anything like Robin Yount. Maybe it's worth re-extending Chourio someday soon. The trend away from single-team, whole-career superstars sucks, and it is made more of a certainty in the current system. 

I agree with this, but then again, I’m old enough to remember when college players stayed with the same university for four years

[JCREW]

3 hours ago, Underachiever said:

I agree with this, but then again, I’m old enough to remember when college players stayed with the same university for four years

This is what happens when $$ speaks louder than anything. It’s too bad communism sucks, cuz capitalism certainly doesn’t care about my heart and my baseball team.