9/16/05 Brewers(Helling) V.S Astros(Oswalt). 7:05 CDT

[markwitx]

very nice inning for matt

[naivin]

Is it just me, or did I just watch this game Wednesday night?

[bork]

Come on, let's get a home run so Turnbow can end this thing.

[PeaveyFury]

Weeks needs a couple days off.

[JoeH33]

Back to back K's.......ugly

[markwitx]

i sure want to see extra innings.

[markwitx]

i sure hate brad lidge

[PeaveyFury]

Eveland sure playing with fire here... it's going to take some top-notch pitching to get out of this.

[cruiserx43]

This game isn't going to have a happy ending.

 

"Well that game was a big bowl of crap." -Brian

[bork]

Helms at 3B and Cirillo at 2B? Nice defensive substitions. Yuck.

[TracyThom]

Good job by Eveland thus far.

 

 

Ruh-roh, it's Bagwell.

[TracyThom]

Base hit by Bagwell, Astros win.

[Brian the Automator]

[ "Well that game was a big bowl of crap." -Brian ]

 

My sentiments exactly.

[mls4]

We could have used Turnbow in that game, again. Why do we continue to try and win a close game without using our best relief pitcher?

[rluzinski]

DUH. Turnbow is a CLOSER. You NEVER bring him in unless it's a save situation. Only a loser would do that. O yeh, and Garner.

[Ralph Wiggum]

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Why do we continue to try and win a close game without using our best relief pitcher?

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Eveland has been pretty dang effective lately, too. I don't have any problems with him being used in that situation.

[gregmag]

I don't like the doctrinaire refusal to use Turnbow in anything other than a save situation, but we do have other guys who aren't chopped liver.

 

Maybe I'm just feeling mellow after surviving a day at the mall with the in-laws (who are lovely people; it's the mall that drains my life force), but I can't feel too bad about this one. Roy Oswalt and Jeff Bagwell beat us. No duh -- they're really, really good. The fact that Rick freakin' Helling is continuing to do his best Pedro Martinez impression just boggles my mind.

 

I do wonder what the past ten days have done to our pythagorean win expectation (I'm too lazy to check).

 

Greg.

[naivin]

Is it time for Weeks to take some serious time off? If what we've seen of late is all he's capable of, it sure looks to me like he is suffering from some combination of fatigue and that thumb. It might be time to say that it may be better for both he and the team if he spends more time on the bench than the field for the remainder of the year.

[treego14]

Letting Eveland pitch the 9th, especially to Bagwell with the game on the line is just moronic! Hasn't Yost noticed that Eveland's Batting Average Allowed is over .300? Hasn't Yost noticed that Bagwell is Hall of Fame caliber, especially against lefties? Our guys are facing Brad Lidge the last 2 innings and their guys are facing a soft-tossing rookie in the last inning who was in AA most of the season --- what a bad joke!

 

Perhaps Yost doesn't want to finish at .500 quite yet this season. That way, they can make that their target once again next season.

 

Ned is brain-dead!

 

Tonight, at least.

 

Where's Turnbow, Kane Davis, any righty at all in this situation ... jeepers, creepers! http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/mad.gifhttp://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/frown.gifhttp://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/eyes.gif

[PeaveyFury]

Perhaps Yost doesn't want to finish at .500 quite yet this season. That way, they can make that their target once again next season.

 

Yeah, I'm sure that's it.

 

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[treego14]

They get to hit off a guy who gives up an atrocious .300-plus batting average who pitched most of the season at AA while we get to hit against All-Star Brad Lidge!

 

Duh, why are the Astros playing to win, and we are not? If they're gonna' use Lidge, we gotta' use Turnbow! Good grief, Ned! http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/sick.gifhttp://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/nerd.gifhttp://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/eek.gif

[greeg35]

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I don't like the doctrinaire refusal to use Turnbow in anything other than a save situation

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I don't really see it as "doctrinaire" he hasn't blown that many saves, and has a good number of wins/losses. This tells me that he's pitched in plenty of non-save situations this year.

 

Maybe its more of a recent phenomenon. I agree with Ralph in that I don't mind Eveland pitching in that situation.

 

Frustrating Loss!

[JET15]

I would have liked to have seen Wise stay in another inning. I don't mind saving T-bow, but Wise didn't get that much work... 3 batters.

[brewmann04]

another wasted effort by the Brewer hitters but of course no one should be Suprised.

 

Helling another wasted effort i guess he be starting to feel like Davis soon

[DougJones43]

i really would've liked to have seen turnbow in there as well, if for no other reason than i can't imagine bagwell being able to touch a turnbow fastball in his current condition. if he retires bagwell, he could've gone in the bottom of the 10th as well.

 

i appreciate wanting to keep him for a save situation, but that really does us no good if we don't make it out of the 9th. my philosophy in that situation is to do anything you can to make it out of that inning, and if you're fortunate enough to take the lead at some point and put yourself in a save situation, deal with it then.