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  1. I'd trade Suppan for pretty much anybody who's contract is up next year. That said, I don't think anyone would be foolish enough to trade for him.
  2. I've bought online before with good results. The color matched nicely and after the top coat was applied my fender actually looked pretty good. I can't remember off hand what website I bought from, but if I can think of it I'll let you know.
  3. 1. To me it's relevant because it shows the double standards prevalent in the management of this team. Suppan was 'their guy' and is treated with kid gloves. Hall and Hardy came before, and thus are treated differently.2. "The rules" applied to Hall as well, but he was asked to go down twice, and accepted on the second ask even though he didn't have to. I'm sure a class act like Suppan wouldn't object to going down to Nashville to make himself better, would he? 3. It's no one's fault but Melvin's for having no one better than Burns to replace Suppan (though Burns is even a slight improvement in my opinion). That shows how terrible the pitching is in this organization. There are plenty of AAAA arms available each winter. At any rate, as I said in the Suppan post, it should be quite easy to find a guy who can replace a 1.75 WHIP. The only pitcher worse with a worse WHIP and 100 innings is Manny Parra (go figure).
  4. Wow, what a screw job on Hardy. I can't see him ever playing for the team again after this fiasco. He's been disappointing this year no doubt, but not bad enough to get completely buried like this and his service time messed with. I hate to turn every thread into a Suppan bashing thread, but why is he immune from this, considering that he's the 'brutallist of them all'? Why hasn't he been asked to go to the minors to "work things out"? Instead, he/they keep coming up with these 'injuries'.
  5. I don't see any point in bringing him back next year. If I'm Melvin, I'm on the horn with Kansas City to see if they would do a Suppan/(Hardy or Hart) for Guillen/Bannister deal. Not sure anyone could be fooled into taking Soup though. Maybe if they were given both Hardy and Hart and threw in DeJesus that may sweeten things a little on their end.
  6. Sorry, but I don't buy the "there's no better alternative" argument. To me that's settling for mediocrity. Good teams don't become complacent with what they have just because they are making big salary (Red Sox with Smoltz and Penny for example). My guess is there are dozens of pitchers down in AAA (many with big league experience) that would be more effective than Suppan. Look what the former Brewer reject Lehr did today, there are lots of guys like that out there - that can actually break 88 mph with their fastball. The major problem is that for whatever reason, except for Looper, Melvin didn't pursue any depth in the pitching staff whatsoever in the offseason. I'm talking 'AAAA' type guys to build organizational depth. He foolishly depended on two young guys with about 40 combined career starts, neither of which had ever really pitched a full MLB season. Suppan was never very good to begin with, and at this point, he's done. Let's be real here, if he was making $1 million instead of $8 million, he would have been gone a long time ago. The Brewers need to realize that the Suppan issue isn't going away, most fans want him gone. Ignoring things isn't going to make him magically get any better than he has been. 'Can the Soup' (sounds like a t-shirt idea) and move on.
  7. Where is Suppan on that list? No one would be dumb enough to claim him, but if the Brewers didn't at least put him out there (without reason), I would be upset. Can an 'injured' player not be placed on waivers?
  8. The Phillies can have Hoffman if they take Suppan too. Otherwise, no.
  9. If Supan has any value, then perhaps a team would be ammenable to paying a few million of his remaining contract in a trade. But I'd be shocked if that happened. I don't think that it would be tough to replace a pitcher who has given up an OPS of .913. There are dozens of Everitt Stull types floating around out there in AAA that would be better than Suppan. These guys could be had for little or nothing. Heck, I think Matt Kinney is still kicking around somewhere in AAA. I'd rather see him out there. Wouldn't it have been nice to have Jeff Weaver this year? Could have had him on the cheap, but he was blocked by Soup. Next spring, this team better have at least 8-10 experienced major league starters in camp (including cheap free agents, non-roster invites, etc.) to see if any stick. It was absolutely idiotic to go into a season depending on two green pitchers like Gallardo and Parra as your #1 and #2 with absolutely no organizational depth in case of injury/ineffectiveness.
  10. If Hall can be DFA'd why not Suppan too? The guy is brutal, pure and simple. Seems like pride is getting in the way here.... and I'm more than a little skeptical about his 'injuries' each of the past two seasons. Pure and simple, he is not a major league pitcher anymore. I don't know how anyone can argue that opinion. He seems like a great guy and a good teammate, but you can't run him out there to kill the team every fifth day solely because of his salary. Cut him loose, admit the mistake and move on. Heck, the Braves even cut a legend like Tom Glavine because he just didn't have it anymore.
  11. As I said, I believe walks are largely based on luck AND situation. Some hitters accumulate more walks because they are 'pitched around'. The only difference in this case is that Pujols is pitched around to get to Holiday/Ludwick while Cameron is pitched around to get to Hardy/Kendall, etc. Do you think that Cameron would have as many walks if he hit ahead of Braun and Fielder? I say no. My guess is that 8 hole hitters in the N.L. also tend to have a higher OBP, because they are often pitched around to get to the pitcher. Do you Cameron boosters honestly feel good about him coming up to bat in clutch situations? I sure don't. As someone else said, a good deal of his offensive stats come in games that are already decided.
  12. As I've said before, I don't put much faith in OPS to see the full value of a player. To me, it is way too highly correlated with bases on balls. In my mind, drawing walks isn't very indicative of a hitter's offensive prowess. I say this because the pitcher is more attributable to the walk than the hitter. Simply put, the pitcher is not doing their job. Granted, walks can also be indicative of being 'pitched around'. I would say drawing walks is more dependent on situation/luck than actual skill. I believe this is why Cameron's OPS is inflated and not truly representative of his ability at the plate. Who has been hitting behind him this year? Hardy and Kendall among others.....I would pitch around Cameron as well, and firmly believe this is why he will very likely be drawing a career high in walks this season. Cameron has never shown a good deal of plate discipline, and he swings and misses a lot at bad pitches, hence the strikeouts. The only reason his OPS is so high this season is that he is top 10 in the league in walks. Call me old fashioned, but I'll take batting average any day over on base percentage when analyzing a hitter, and in my opinion a .251 career hitter (who strikes out 150 times per year) approaching 37 years old is not worth $10 million, no matter how good his defense is.
  13. I'll take Patterson at a million or less every time over Cameron for $10 million plus.
  14. Is that stupid Joe Buck show still on HBO? Did anyone watch the first one the Artie Lange single-handedly turned into a train wreck?
  15. The Brewers pulled shenanigans like this a few times in the Selig era. One of which I believe is noted in the great Rollie Fingers interview on this site.
  16. No question about it. Cameron reminds me of Jose Hernandez, and the arguments that I would get into about him striking out. I will agree with the sabermaticians that strikeouts don't matter when there is no one on base, but a strike out with one out and guys on second and third is much 'worse' than actually putting the ball in play. Especially when you are hitting in the 6 spot in the N.L. on a team like the Brewers where the 7 guy can be pitched around and an automatic out like Kendall is hitting 8th. Nothing more frustrating then watching a guy strikeout with guys in scoring position, especially with a guy on 3rd when the defense is conceding a run. Fielder is second in the league in getting on base - 221 times. He's scored 75 runs with 33 of those coming on home runs. When he gets on base without hitting a home run, he only scores 22 percent of the time. Somebody isn't getting the job done, and Cameron is a major culprit.
  17. I just don't get the love for Mike Cameron here. Everyone goes on and on about what a great player he is, but I don't see it. I'll give you that he's a good centerfielder, but he strikes out way too much for my tastes. Going further, he has driven in 12 runs since the 4th of July. In seven weeks of playing almost everyday, that is pathetic (yes, I know that many of you think that RBI's are a worthless stat). If my recollection is correct, he disappeared in a very similar way last season. In my opinion, he is not worth anywhere near $10 million a year, and the only way that I'd take him back is at a significant pay cut.
  18. Joe Buck and (insert name) Skip Carey and (insert name) Brenly and Casper
  19. I bet Hall will put up better numbers than Bourgeous for the rest of the season. I'll even go further and bet that he will be above 'replacement value'. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he puts up better numbers than Cameron.
  20. Shields is the kind of guy I'm talking about 'middle of rotation'. He's above average, but just not that good. Guys are hitting about .275 off him this year. He doesn't strike out a lot of people either. I watched him pitch last night, and they were talking about how he's been falling behind hitters a lot this year. Now I'm not saying he's not a good pitcher- he is, but I'm not trading Prince for him, or for him and a pitching prospect. I'm not trading Prince for any pitching 'prospects' by the way. Most of them don't pan out. If I'm including Prince in a deal, I better be getting someone like Greinke or Hernandez in return. Otherwise, I hang on to him. I'm not trading him for unproven guys like Clay Bucholz, Phil Hughes, etc., etc. It's not like he's a rental player. There are two years before he can be a free agent.
  21. No way do you trade Prince at this juncture. As hard as I was on him last year, think about where this team would be this year without him. Who would you get of equal value? Unless you are getting a proven top 10 MLB starter, I don't see the point. It makes no sense to trade him for say two unproven middle of the rotation guys.
  22. I say it was a stupid move to DFA him. You can't tell me that he didn't have some value. He could play at least 5 positions, and he has some track record of hitting the ball. There are plenty of worse '25th men' in the league. For Pete's sake, we aren't too far from the days of guys like Trent Durrington. Doesn't make a bit of sense to get rid of him and be on the hook for $10 million when they need a utility guy anyway. If they DFA'd anyone, it should have been Suppan. Why does he keep getting chances? He has hurt the team a lot more than Hall did.
  23. I could care less what the guy "looks like". I'm galled by the lack of accountability that his family is taking for this by placing blame on the victim. This is way too common in our society today. Now they are making the "he was off his medication" excuse. Probably trying to drum up a lawsuit or something. Disgusting.
  24. I say just eat Hall's contract. Why take on even more money for someone like Igawa or Arroyo? I wish they would have held on to Hall and tried to move him in the off season. They really handcuffed themselves with the timing of this.
  25. Ever notice how most murderers, etc. are "great guys" according to their family and friends, that "never could do something like this"? My guess is that this guy's track record speaks for itself.
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